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[-] 1bluepixel@lemmy.world 153 points 11 months ago

The easy, low-cost solution is to build freight rail. But no, that's communism and it doesn't get a tech billionaire their extra billion.

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago

Somehow capitalists all over the world love freight trains. It's just US being dumb as always.

[-] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

US freight rail is fine and a lot of cargo goes by train for the most part. There's still gotta be trucks to get to and from the terminal. Not many facilities have built in rail spurs, or the need to ship an entire train load at once for that matter

[-] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

So what's the point of the OPs comment?

[-] imBANO@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

Rails are indeed one of the cheapest, best scaling, and most reliable ways to move goods no doubt, but it also has a last mile problem.

Just wanted to point out the solution isn’t as easy as “rails all things”. Trucks still do offer some situational advantages, and will still have their place in logistics.

[-] Shayeta@feddit.de 10 points 11 months ago

I agree with the sentiment, but did you not notice the "across the country" part of the title?

[-] imBANO@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Fair response. It’s likely due to the lack of rail infrastructure why this delivery was “across the country”. Rails are typically much cheaper per ton-mile than trucks. If a rail alternative existed, I’m fairly certain the economics would have forced the use of trains.

However, I’d say the self driving part is still be a benefit that would improve truck utilization rate.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

I did some digging. According to the article, the route went from Tulare, CA to Quakertown, PA. OpenRailwayMap is really good for this. Both have freight rail lines running directly through the heart of the town. Going by destination alone, this is kind of a pointless operation. Then again, the point was more to demonstrate the possibility of an autonomous truck rather than whether that particular route made any sense.

[-] Gabu@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

The place of trucks in logistics is in hell, delivering coal.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago

If it can be done economically, it'll be done. And it has been, the freight rail network in the US is huge.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today -1 points 11 months ago

There is nothing low cost or easy about building coast to coast freight rail. It would take a minimum of 20 years and cost billions.

[-] pingveno@lemmy.ml 18 points 11 months ago

The US has had a transcontinental railroad network for over a century. The Western US was initially settled largely on railway stops, land grants, and mandatory passenger service. The passenger service was one of the conditions for the land grants.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The US has had a transcontinental railroad network for over a century.

Sure, now try and figure out the expense and time required to build another one NOW, not in 1890 but in 2023. The right of ways alone may take you until 2123 to get sorted out and I really suspect that the Chinese aren't going to show up to work for pennies a day to build the thing.

The passenger service was one of the conditions for the land grants.

We aren't talking about Passenger Service. We're talking about Cargo Service and since we already have one TC Rail System it follows that the meme is agitating that we build another one.

It would take decades and cost billions, probably tens of billions.

[-] tdawg@lemmy.world 86 points 11 months ago

That is literally the most dangerous bike lane in existence

[-] BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca 31 points 11 months ago

holy shit, i thought that was some kind of graphical overlay. that's a bike lane!? that has to be intentional, like some kind of malicious compliance from someone who hates cyclists

[-] paperemail@links.rocks 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I saw the picture first and finished the headline in my mind:

A self-driving freight truck just drove across several cyclists

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

The cyclists were turned into butter

[-] u202307011927@feddit.de 9 points 11 months ago

And then they were delivered

[-] ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I can't believe it's not bikes

[-] u202307011927@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago

Delivered to

or

Delivered from

?

[-] Belgdore@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

No, like a baby.

[-] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago

JFC, whose bright idea was that?

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

The buddy of the governor who got the contract lul. At least that's what happened in my friends small town when they built a roundabout that took 4 years to finish for a small 4 lane intersection that had stops before on a road that got maaaaaybe 12 cars a day

[-] Piemanding@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

That 12 cars a day is probably the biggest reason it took so long. When you don't want to spend money you prioritize more important projects.

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 11 months ago

You are so full of it. It's not a fucking bike lane it just goes to the turn and disappear. This is not what bike lanes do. How much of your life is just riffing off others guesses and piling on anecdotes like this?

[-] pipows@lemmy.today 39 points 11 months ago

Hear me out: trains

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

I'm sure glad we developed technology just to avoid paying one person to drive that truck. This is progress and will not have knock on consequences. We should celebrate this.

[-] hakase@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This, but unironically. Automation is a good thing, and every driver who loses their job over this drives the necessity of finding post-automation solutions that much closer to the breaking point.

[-] echo64@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

Oh yes, I'm sure our current socioeconomic systems will get right on finding post automation solutions. That'll happen real soon now. I mean, it'll have to happen, right? We won't just let all the jobs dissolve away so that shareholders get richer, right? That would be crazy to do that. I can't imagine a society that would possibly do that, could you?

[-] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 11 months ago

This but realistically it has ruined equality at the rate time as it improved life quality

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca -3 points 11 months ago

Yes because losing your job to robots is fun, rich will be richer and poor will be more miserable

[-] viperex@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

This must have been intentional

[-] Sagar@sopuli.xyz 7 points 11 months ago

Caption better than meme!

[-] money_loo@1337lemmy.com 4 points 11 months ago
[-] OrangeXarot@sh.itjust.works 10 points 11 months ago

their only purpose is to pass butter

[-] TheFogan@programming.dev 5 points 11 months ago
[-] money_loo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That was hilarious, sad and adorable at the same time. Thank you for the context, I’ve never seen the show before.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

The fanbase can be… quite something to behold, but I’ve found the show hilarious and clever almost every episode.

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[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

King Harlaus: heavy breathing

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