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With today's update I dare say Voyager is now better than Apollo was (i.ibb.co)

submitted 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) by ZeroCool@slrpnk.net to c/voyagerapp@lemmy.world

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User tags are going to be so useful. Keep up the good work, @aeharding@vger.social!

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[-] moe90@feddit.nl 2 points 15 hours ago

there is no push notification and widget like original Apollo

[-] 3dogsinatrenchcoat@slrpnk.net 11 points 14 hours ago

I think lemmy doesn't currently support push notifications so the app would have to stay awake in the background to check for them

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

It's neat how the receipt and storage of push 'notes could easily leverage the short-message idea in the original sendmail spec.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

You don’t need to have the app running in the background. Notifications can be pushed from the cloud.

Problem is, that costs money to host and run that job to check for notifications. This is why a lot of small developers end up burying notifications behind a paywall.

[-] ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 hours ago

So then „bury“ it behind a paywall, why is that bad? A server costs money so let the people who want to use that server pay their part. I see no problem with that.

[-] 3dogsinatrenchcoat@slrpnk.net 6 points 13 hours ago

I mean yeah, but hosting and running a voyager server that stores our login credentials would be a more complicated and difficult option for what gain? The simplest solution would probably be just waking up the app every so often to check, I think eternity does that

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Speaking for iOS, I don’t believe this is possible. iOS has rules around what background processes can and can’t run on-device.

For notifications coming from the internet, in order to preserve battery life, Apple wants cloud APNs to wake up terminated apps to deliver notifications.

I know android does some similar battery preservation stuff around notifications, but I’m a little less familiar with that.

[-] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Meh, I bought Ultra lifetime after a few months of using Apollo and never even bothered using push notifications. Which is funny, because it was the main thing I missed when I originally switched from Android and RiF in 2020. Voyager is FOSS so it's understandable that there won't be push notifications, as that require servers which cost money, and it also introduces potential security issues. User tags on the other hand, were something Apollo sorely needed, and the dev never got around to it.