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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 23 points 11 hours ago

No it's about nuclear waste and where to store it, it's about how expensive it is to build a nuclear power plant (bc of regulations so they don't goo boom) and it's about how much you have to subsidize it to make the electricity it produces affordable at all. Economically it's just not worth it. Renewables are just WAY cheaper.

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 5 points 8 hours ago

No it's about nuclear waste and where to store it,

Is this video inaccurate? This isn't meant as a gotcha comment. https://youtu.be/4aUODXeAM-k

[-] beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 11 hours ago

Fire's waste is just all particulates in the air which we all share.

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[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 79 points 16 hours ago

Funny how nuclear power plants are taboo, but building thousands of nuclear warheads all over the globe is no issue.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 36 points 14 hours ago

Funny how building nuclear power plants that can only (if you have dipshits running them) kill a nearby city is taboo, but climate change that will kill everyone is acceptable to the moralists.

[-] oyo@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago

Funny how solar, wind, and batteries are way cheaper and faster to build yet people are still talking about nuclear.

[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 23 points 12 hours ago

Stopping nuclear from being built is the problem.

We would have had a lot more clean energy than we do by now if we let the nuclear power plants that "would take too long to build!" be built back then, because they'd be up and running by now.

More letting perfect be the enemy of good.

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[-] drake@lemmy.sdf.org -2 points 4 hours ago

There is a huge lobby of pro-nuclear think tanks who try to astroturf pro-nuclear shit onto social media. We, scientifically literate, rational people, need to counteract these harmful narratives with some facts.

FACT: Renewable sources of energy are as cheap or cheaper per kwh than nuclear.

FACT: Renewables are faster to provision than nuclear.

FACT: Renewables are as clean, or cleaner, than nuclear.

FACT: Renewables are much more flexible and responsive to energy fluctuations than nuclear.

FACT: Renewables will only get cheaper. Nuclear will only get more expensive, because uranium mining will get harder and harder as we deplete easily accessible sources.

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[-] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 37 points 17 hours ago

The problem isn't that they exploded one time. The problem is that that one explosion is still happening and likely will be for quite a while.

On the other hand, modern rock exploding plant designs are so much better that it's very unlikely to repeat itself, so there's that.

[-] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 17 points 15 hours ago

I'm sure the other rock/liquid/gas burning plants have had no issues along their lifetime and had no hand in demonizing the "new" slowly exploding rock technology after extreme negligence let the one big one happen. /s

I'd take the band aid of nuclear in my backyard vs what we rely on now after learning all of the insider knowledge of someone who personally worked in energy generation that did all of this plus renewables almost their entire professional life.

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[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 42 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Paraphrased but this is right.

And the people were taught to talk about the horrible nuclear accidents that killed a few but completely glance over the unimaginable millions perished in the name of oil, mustn't even mention the mass extinction events we launched with oil.

We even spread exaggerated bullshit about radiation mutation (wtf? thats superhero comic books fiction!!) and cancer rates (only one really), ignoring how much overwhelmingly more of the both we get from fossil fuel products.

We are like prehistoric people going extinct bcs of the tales how generations ago someone burned down their house so fire bad. Well, actually not like that - we are taking with us a lot of species & entire ecosystems too.

[-] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago

It's more like "Bob and Jim died in a fire a while ago, so everyone decided to put up with heaps of people dying to hypothermia and uncooked meat"

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 14 points 16 hours ago

The local undertaker family tells the story about Bob and Jim once a week to the whole village (attendance is mandatory).

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[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 54 points 20 hours ago

You're right to reject the logic behind that because it's nonsense. Its not making sense to them because they still presume some kind of good faith when it come to these sorts of things.

The reason we haven't built more nuclear power stations is because oil, gas and coal companies will make less money, if we build more nuclear power stations.

They have the means, the motive and they have a well recorded history of being that cartoonishly villainous. Nothing else makes sense.

[-] Baylahoo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 15 hours ago

It's crazy that Mr. Burns from the Simpsons was in nuclear and not coal or oil. Probably a product of the propaganda at the time.

[-] Screen_Shatter@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago

Three Mile Island and Chernobyl really did change things. Prior to those incidents there were plans to build over 50 more nuclear plants in place which got canceled as a result. Currently oil and gas industries will do all they can to keep nuclear from making a come back, but for a long time they didn't have to do shit thanks to those catastrophes.

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[-] Hegar@fedia.io 107 points 23 hours ago

Burning down your house doesn't poison people thousands of years later, so it's not a perfect analogy.

Plus we have magic mirrors and magic fans that do the same thing as the magic rocks just way cheaper.

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