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[–] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Just some points that I have not seen discussed-

  1. Time to refuel / practical vehicle range 1a. The cost involved in having charging installed on your property
  2. Weather. Snow. Effect of cold on batteries. I know everyone hates those evil SUV's, bit when there's 14" of snow on the ground your tesla/volt/insert your favorite EV ain't gonna cut it
  3. To the "just put in mass transit" crowd, do you feel that eminent domain is justified to take property from someone to fulfill this need?

Honestly not trying to troll, these are real questions that should be answered

And for the record, my vehicle is a compact sedan, getting on average 34-37mpg, so I'm not in that dick-size contest over who's truck has the bigger lift kit

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Weather. Snow. Effect of cold on batteries. I know everyone hates those evil SUV’s, bit when there’s 14" of snow on the ground your tesla/volt/insert your favorite EV ain’t gonna cut it

How so? I live in Boston, where it gets cold and snowy. During the winter, the efficiency on my Bolt goes from 4.0mi/kWh (134.8 mpg equivalent) to 2.7mi/kWh to (90.99 mpg equivalent), and I park outside in the cold. Otherwise, it works just like any car I've had. Why exactly do I need an SUV?

[–] rug_burn@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

I never said you need one. I make do without one, however there are plenty of times during our winters here the larger wheels/greater ground clearance would be extremely useful. Just because it doesn't work for you or me doesn't mean there are people it does work for.

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[–] Mammothmothman@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

What if I told you buying an EV is more about not paying for gas than it is about fighting climate change.

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[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Here's another "fun" fact, with every 3 miles you drive you will polite about 1 straw of microplastics from the cars tires.

[–] Yoinkle@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Elivey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

You know how you have to buy tires every few years because they "go bald"? As in, they've lost that material that was once tread? That material isn't just disappearing, it flies off the tires in the form of tiny particles that are in the air and water. It's actually really toxic too, way more than other plastics. Fun fact EV tires are even more toxic.

Source: I work in a toxicology lab studying microplastics.

[–] UFODivebomb@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

While notable: That wasn't a source on the particular fact cited.

[–] camelbeard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

I responded somewhere above in the conservation.

It was something I heard this professor say in a podcast and there was also a newspaper article about it.

This English items doesn't say the straw bit, but it does say 4KG of microplastics during its lifetime

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/14/car-tyres-are-major-source-of-ocean-microplastics-study

After some Googling, a car tire will last about 50K miles. After 50K miles it has lost 4KG of microplastics. A car has 4 tires so 16KG.

16000 grammes per 50K miles, is almost 1 gram per 3 miles.

First Google result Straws on average weigh so little—about one sixty-seventh of an ounce or . 42 grams

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