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[–] Smk@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's very interesting to have the view of a women that has transitioned to a men on the feeling side of things. I wonder how the transition is actually affecting his current relationship.

My experience as a man does look like what he talks about however, it's not as crazy as he is saying. His depiction of manhood feels almost satire to me. Almost all of my interaction with men, I feel safe enough to talk about my problems, my feelings and my opinions on things, both personal or not.

Although, I am me and I do not represent all other men, It's not untrue that men are lead to believe that they must be the one to shut up and provide for their community/family. Shut up and die for your family, you country. Shut up and do what you have to do. If you really do that, I think you just end up lonely, sad and probably really suicidal.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

it's not as crazy as he is saying. His depiction of manhood feels almost satire to me. Almost all of my interaction with men, I feel safe enough to talk about my problems, my feelings and my opinions on things, both personal or not.

It's spot on for me. 9/10 times I open up to other men, it's either diminished, insulted, or ignored. I count 4 friends who've actually listened to me. 1 ghosted me some time later. 1 listened rarely, only after I listened to him for hours. The other 2 are true chads and I wish life hadn't separated us.

When I open up to women, it's either insulted or saved and later used against me as manipulation.

I just don't anymore. Only people I talk to are therapists.

[–] simplecyphers@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

TIL my friendships with my bros are about 5x healthier than average.

I read this thought it sounded super melodramatic and exaggerated. I guess it’s just more rare to have deep friendships with the boys. Looking back it got me thinking that I might be the weird one with friends that have deep conversations and know/worry about the others mental health.

So i guess, to any guys that read this and felt like it could have been written about them: go out on a limb and talk to your friends. Chances are they want/need a more meaningful friendship too. They are also probably similarly apprehensive about opening up.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm mtf, being a woman made my life much much easier

[–] Nelots@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The comments at the bottom of the article though... I really hate people sometimes.

[–] agissilver@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Oof they are awful, and indicative of the issues raised in the article. So many of the men commenting are defending the "man" stereotype as "natural", and ignoring that men have issues existing in society probably because of the pressures of that stereotype. Nobody wants men to feel isolated and lonely and kill themselves 4x as much. I don't think that's a "natural" part of being a man. At least it doesn't have to be.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And than they turn around and blame feminism for all the problems men face.

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[–] Deca@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I wonder if this is one of the reasons why MTF vastly outnumber FTM transitions

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[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still get sad at the surprise women have when I move before they do

Is this actually a thing? I've always moved away from everyone's path and never noticed anyone feeling surprised by that. And from every man I've ever walked with, I can only remember one who I noticed didn't make room for other people.

[–] threadloose@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Oh, it's totally a thing. I'm a woman and short, so I'm below the eye line of most men, and I've had men plow right over me on crowded sidewalks or at events. Most men expect the woman to yield in that situation and they'll get annoyed if you don't. It actually is surprising when a man moves out of the way, though I don't know if it shows on my face.

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[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Am I only the only one who thinks comes off like "men arent like women, and therefore broken"?

Not having to spend an hour discussing my feelings is actually one of the things I like about my friendships. I don't want long deep hugs, they make me uncomfortable. And I definitely don't want someone opening up to me about their life struggles. That's not the kind of friendship I like or want.

I guess that makes me broken!

[–] HappyMeatbag@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not quite. To me, it’s more like “men don’t even have the option of building relationships like women do, and that’s not healthy. Society is broken.”

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean it does because those things only make you uncomfortable because you've been conditioned your entire life to feel that way just because you're a man.

Those things are basic human companionship.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Men aren't "broken" just because we interact differently than women. It may be news to that trans man, but we don't have the same emotional needs as women. We interact in ways that work for us. It is fashionable today to refer to all masculinity as toxic, but we are not the same as women, hard stop. Stop trying to pretend that we are.

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