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I've mostly left reddit and switched to beehaw, but I posted on somewhat of a niche tech-related subreddit today since there really isn't a community for that here yet. And wow, I got instantly downvoted twice and the first comment response was rude and hostile. All I posted was a feature suggestion for software that I thought would be useful and that a good amount of people would like based on other feedback I've heard. This is not the sort of topic that should be controversial or aggravating, and it wasn't like I made an ignorant post suggesting a feature that already existed or otherwise wasn't well researched.

This type of instantly hostile response has happened numerous times on reddit for various different topics, but I just haven't posted for a while, so I forgot just how shitty it can feel. It makes me really appreciate how friendly and respectful the community is here on Beehaw and on Mastodon. People seem to have good faith in one another similar to how the internet used to be in the old days.

Have you had similar experiences with Reddit and similarly opposite experiences here on Beehaw/Lemmy?

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[–] LJay71@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve seen that countless times on tech based subs when I was on that site. Very weird to see a feature suggestion bring up so much hostility from people.

[–] CatBusBand@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I've receiced a reddit cares message just because I supported a male idol group. I definitely don't miss that part of reddit. My experience browsing lemmy/beehaw/kbin is much nicer since people aren't willing to tolerate vitriol and want that part of reddit to stay at reddit. Everyone's tired of always being angry at a faceless mob.

[–] Kuroneko@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Too many morons use the downvote button as a “Dislike/Disagree” button. It’s why I like that downvotes are disabled here. If you disagree with someone, you’re encouraged to actually have a discussion instead of lazily pressing the downvote arrow and leaving.

[–] GhostMagician@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

Voting is also public, so when people do use them they need to be prepared to stand by it a opposed to using it with anonymity.

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[–] Tordoc@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thank you for sharing your experience. Reading the replies it seems like most of us have experienced similar from Reddit, and I agree with ArtZuron's comment "the more public an online space becomes [...] [t]he loudest most obnoxious people ruin it". I'm reminded of Alyaza's post of how unchecked toxicity can rapidly poison a userbase and drive away positive interaction. MayonnaiseArch sums it up better than I can: "being abused and gaslit and molested in any single interaction really makes you act in a different way, you can’t be honest or open in that kind of environment"

[–] LemmyAtem@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sometime in the past few years I feel like reddit devolved into an argument fest. It seems like the only thing anyone is interested in is arguing or saying rude or hateful shit in the comments. It turned me off to commenting tbh and even pre-api nonsense made me realize I didn't enjoy reddit the way I used to.

It's nice here still, and hopefully stays that way. Sometimes I'll write something that I realize could be taken as rude and I'll feel like an absolute asshole until I fix it. Like I'm worried I'll upset someone when I didn't mean to... I haven't given something like that a second thought on Reddit in years.

Also if anyone reads a comment from me and I sound like an asshole, please let me know! It's almost certainly not intended, especially anywhere on Beehaw.

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[–] agentsquirrel@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I was amazed how many times on Reddit I had hostile comments in response, repeatedly to a comment that was days old. It's like there were people just trolling around looking for a comment to attack, and once they did it was relentless. I'm so glad I was able to quit Reddit entirely. It was a toxic environment.

[–] cyberdecker@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

First off, OP, I'm sorry that you had to go through that. Hostile responses hurt, particularly when you're just trying to help. I hope this doesn't stop you from sharing ideas in the future. We need more people willing to share ideas so we can have good thought diversity.

That being said, I don't think this is a good reason to leave Reddit or hate Reddit.

I know a lot of us are really highly charged right now and the Reddit hate is strong. We got burned by something that was a major part of our lives for many years. But the toxicity of the participants is not exactly a Reddit thing. This is an internet thing. You are not getting away from that here.

I have had similar experiences as OP on Reddit and I'm also seeing similar behaviors on Lemmy as well, particularly now that it is growing faster.

Lemmy and federated services in general do not automatically mean that the community is nicer or are more respectful. That is not the problem these services try to solve. They solve issues of ownership and centralization. Even communities like Beehaw aren't free from this either. I've seen some pretty toxic behavior, even on Beehaw. They can't escape that. But what they can do is set a standard for expected behaviors and then moderate the community as best they can. This doesn't eliminate the problem, but at least it sets a stage where we can play, and call out when someone crosses the line.

So let's not kid ourselves. When people from different backgrounds, views, and intents come together with the capability of being anonymous and behind a screen, the bad actors WILL come and join the fray. That's just part of internet connected life.

[–] xray@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Thank you for your kind and thoughtful response. I try not to let these type of interactions get to me because I know I should not let stranger’s opinion be able to affect me that much. I should be the gatekeeper of my emotions and what I let affect me. I just was already not having a great day yesterday, and being treated poorly for literally no reason, and realizing I wasted my time sharing my ideas just put me a bit over the edge.

And you’re right, these kinds of interactions are just something that happens as being a part of the internet and even just as part of humanity in the real world too. Bad actors are bad actors.

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[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I always have had this experience. I posted a silly mess up I had with my 3D printer once and all the comments were focused on the fact that I had a printer that wasn’t part of the circlejerk of “best printers according to the subreddit”.

I got called a dumbass and there was a comment chain where 2 people pondered about just how stupid I would have to be to buy the printer I have now.

Not a single comment referring to my actual post, just all jumping down my throat because I dare not buy the Ender 3.

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