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[–] fubo@lemmy.world 220 points 2 years ago (3 children)

As a reminder, Brave was created by the guy who brought you JavaScript and was later fired from Mozilla for donating to hate groups. Brave also profits from multiple forms of fraud including NFTs and affiliate hijacking.

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 86 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

If folk want to have a chromium-based browser made by a company, take a look at Vivaldi instead ~~(which will keep the old plugin architecture, so adblockers work)~~. It has a limited built-in blocker and extra features, but for now still runs uBlock.

[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 22 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Vivaldi is what I use, and it's absolutely the best Chromium browser I've ever tried.

That said, I'd switch to Firefox in a heartbeat if it could duplicate that sidebar. I use that thing all the time, and it's the only thing keeping me on Chromium.

[–] matt@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (3 children)

https://floorp.app

Firefox fork with features like the sidebar, vertical tabs, and more. It's a vivaldi-like gecko browser, give it a shot.

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[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

it's also absolutely proprietary, so no, thanks.

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[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 113 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just a reminder, one of the largest investors in Brave is a right-wing billionaire who runs a corporate espionage agency that contracts with the US Department of Defense to spy on people.

[–] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Pfosten@feddit.de 62 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Well, it's about Peter Thiel, who also founded the Palantir surveillance technology company. As a source for his involvement with Brave, Wikipedia cites this TechCrunch article, which mentions funding from Thiel's "Founders Fund".

I'd rather criticize Brave for other reasons though, like being led by Brendan Eich or supporting crypto.

[–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 years ago

That's the best reason, but somebody already mentioned it and I didn't want to be redundant.

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I love it when I talked shit about this browser and get acused of wearing a tin foil hat.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Just a reminder, Brave was using people's likenesses to solicit donations without their consent, and without necessarily give those people the donations.

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[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 48 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Uh I'll stick to Firefox thanks.

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[–] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Update: Brave plans to address the issue in a future release. The VPN service will only be installed after a user purchases the VPN.

"Oh gee whiz did we do that?! Woopsie doodle! We'll fix it someday!"

Furthermore, no data is sent to Brave from the VPN services. End

This might be true but the bigger problem is I have exactly zero reason to believe anything Brave says about the things they're installing on people's machines without consent. If you're still using Brave at this point you're a fool.

[–] rckclmbr@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago (5 children)

They'll either evil or incompetent. Neither of which I want on my computer

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Stop using Brave, jfc. Please use Firefox, it's not the best, but it's better than this trash my goodness how many more scandals do people need to get rid of this crap?

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 19 points 2 years ago

Firefox is the best.

[–] phx@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Yeah the first time I tried Brave it the a bunch of ads for their services - and asking about providing info to their partners - at me constantly. I don't understand why people use that PoS

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Damn the negative stories just keep coming in regards to Brave. It’s a shame, I liked using their iOS app but I said fuck it awhile ago already. Firefox is my main b ^rowser^

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[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] ours@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Like built-in crypto shenanigans weren't enough.

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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The only chrome variant that doesn’t seem sketchy to install is chromium. The built from open source chromium. And that’s just because some sites barely function unless you’re using chrome’s rendering.

For everything else, Firefox.

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[–] Pat@kbin.run 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Vivaldi is a better brave. You get built in ad blocking and tracking prevention along with not having built in crypto

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And mouse gestures! Configurable tab stacking! Workspaces! Notes and pinned tabs! Tab tiling! Web apps in the sidebar! I love Vivaldi.

[–] clegko@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Remember when Opera had all of these things a literal decade+ ago? I remember.

[–] hagelslager@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Vivaldi is lead by an ex-Opera engineer.

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[–] hal_5700X@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)
[–] ripcord@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Very few people do. Better to just get Firefox.

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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago
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