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How my Firefox became a LibreWolf

New blog-post: https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1065/how-my-firefox-became-a-librewolf

#firefox #librewolf #tos #webcomic

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[–] mray@social.tchncs.de 38 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Thank you! Putting the Firefox dilemma in pictures makes it less academic and more approachable issue. I hope many people realize how empowering it is to use free software that can be replaced easily.

It is not always so easy:

https://video.1146.nohost.me/w/ij3qHTrc55t9izuk6hP7HF

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy crap thank you for sharing that. Spectacular. Also, the last minute of that had the kind of inspirational vibes that I last got in the 90s reading things on cult of the dead cow.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

@mray@social.tchncs.de Thanks! Oh yes it's not easy to find the time and do a change and walk the path of frustration of changing habit and studying settings.

Thanks for the video, I'm already subscribed to this animator artist, James Lee.

He recently announced moving to GNU/Linux. It's not the best period to do this for artists, with Wayland, all container war etc...I don't remember I saw an update of them about how they succeed to make it. Certainly hard time ^ ^ I hope he found my blog post about it.

[–] eugen@infosec.exchange 24 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
For me, it is, honestly, sad. I've been using Firefox since... it was Firebird. Twenty+ years.

Great art, as always!

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 21 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

From the blog post...

You won't be pampered with a one-click installation for all. Instead, you'll need to take the time to review the documentation and set up the security and privacy features that you're willing to trade off for comfort and convenience.

Yeah, ouch, thats not going to sell with the Plebs, and limit buy-in from them, and market share.

They really should try to fix that, and not just hand wave it away as a problem.

Market share is the lifeblood of the browser wars.

~This~ ~comment~ ~is~ ~licensed~ ~under~ ~CC~ ~BY-NC-SA~ ~4.0~

[–] SirSamuel@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Pleb here

You are correct

[–] PokerChips@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

Everything is on by default. So is actually quite easy.

It's very nice because you don't really have to worry about which add-ons you need.

It's about the most simple browser I've ever used.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world "[...] not going to sell with the Plebs"

😆 I don't think LibreWolf has view for market share and plebs. As far as I know it's a community initiative, not a company. Yes, it require time to install and setup, and understand the implication of what security and privacy setting one decide to lower. But I'm happy I took this time, I feel I understand even more how the web of 2025 is broken and how web browser interacts with it to try to ease the experience.

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world I mean I don't hate for-profit companies that much unless they have done questionable/nefarious things repeatedly; but I really don't like for-profit companies hiding behind non-profits/benefit corporations/co-ops especially to do questionable things.

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[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

Gorgeous artwork friend!

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

For android, there's also fennec on fdroid

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

i have ironfox for android.

[–] darkbeth@mastodon.coffee 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Excellent art, as always.

I switched this week too. It was very simple on Linux Mint, but I worry about the future of the Firefox code base.

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[–] matera@mastodon.sdf.org 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
I'm hooked on the Wolf, been using it for over a year.

Once in a while I use furryfox for some fussy-ass site that I have to do one thing on once in a blueish moon.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@matera@mastodon.sdf.org Haha, I typed in a search engine for "furryfox" before realizing it was your way of naming Firefox. 😆
Catchy name.
Yes, I'll keep my Firefox too in background. Right now mainly to compare when I have an issue with LibreWolf, and also to test my blog and peppercarrot website. 😉

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[–] technikhil@toot.cafe 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
For those coming here in search of Firefox alternatives, I just want to point out https://zen-browser.app/ that is also a fork of Firefox though perhaps a more customised fork... Check it out if you are in the mood for trying a different layout from the default Firefox experience...

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

i also have floorp./

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[–] ErikUden@mastodon.de 4 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org yippiee

[–] simonzerafa@infosec.exchange 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

@protonprivacy@mastodon.social also flounced off Mastodon after they received well deserved criticism.

Is @mozillaofficial@mastodon.social doing the same? 🫤🤷‍♂️

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

The ceo gravy train keeps going.

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[–] tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr 4 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Excellent, as usual.

[–] yalle@corneill.es 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Ce projet LibreWolf semble sympathique mais pas compatible avec firefox syncs, ce qui est sans doute logique, mais sans alternative.
Je teste également Floorp...

[–] megane_kun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

J'ai utilisé LibreWolf et il a bien fonctionné avec Firefox sync. Si je me souvenir bien, il faut activer (permettre) Firefox sync dans les options. Maintenant, j'utilise Floorp. Il, également, bien fonctionne avec Firefox sync.

(Désolé pour mon mauvais français.)


I have used LibreWolf and it works well with Firefox sync. If I am remembering correctly, it must be enabled in the options. Right now, I use Floorp. It also works well with Firefox sync.

(Sorry for my poor French.)

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[–] vonstauf@infosec.exchange 3 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Thanks for this post and the fun artwork, you convinced me to finally make the jump!

[–] Gonzalo@paquita.masto.host 3 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I switched to LibreWolf two month ago and it works nicely.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 weeks ago

LibreWolf needs to adopt a Foxkeh like mascot since Mozilla refuses to do it even though it would make them so much bank and popularity. <3

[–] cyborgnekosica@socel.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org somehow, my #librewolf makes weird alignment in some sites... is there a way to make the text align left?
It's not a big deal but it can be annoying sometimes

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Is it worth running LibreWolf without fingerprinting disabled? It's kind of a dealbreaker that it doesn't save zoom options on websites. At least I could handle having to run another browser to use Netflix...

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[–] scaro@mamot.fr 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org je te suis et pas que pour la qualité de ton travail ! je vais l'installer de suite sur mon portable Frame.Work Fedora. Et pour ton mobile, tu as choisi quoi ?

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[–] usul@piaille.fr 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org good luck getting sec patches in time

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly. The biggest dilemma browsers seem to have isn't just funding but how to maintain they're absolutely massive code bases.

Either we really do a very large and robust org like the Linux kernel group, or we need to find a way to massive reduce the complexity of the browser.

Servo is exciting and ladybird too. Maybe their fresher starts can bring in the opportunity to do that.

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[–] peterainbow@beige.party 2 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
I wonder what the Linux distros that have Firefox in the default install are going to do going forward?

#linuxmint #linux

[–] notableperson@infosec.exchange 2 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org i deleted firefox litllery just today from my distro, and replaced it with librewolf
its working great!

[–] rony4102@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I am going to ladybird it bro

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

@rony4102@programming.dev Well, I visited their webpage and read their Wikipedia. But only checking they are still active on X was a red flag to me so far to get interested in.

[–] elgregor@social.librem.one 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I still use Firefox, but I disabled sending any data to Mozilla.

Thanks for not contributing to Chromium monopoly. :)

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[–] eskuero@lemmy.fromshado.ws 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Tionisla@mastodon.bsd.cafe 1 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Librewolf sur FreeBSD ici👍

#RunBSD

[–] BluesHarp@musicians.today 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Vivaldi right now and it works great.

[–] davidrevoy@framapiaf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@BluesHarp@musicians.today But Vivaldi is not free/libre and open source software... This is even not an option on my operating system as it is really impossible to know what Vivaldi dev are doing with your data.

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[–] LolaCat@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Great art, so cute!

[–] danielcasanueva@mstdn.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org That's very nice!

[–] unixcaesar@fosstodon.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org I just switched to librewolf as well.

[–] Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 weeks ago

Didn't knew this existed, thx!

[–] mauricepinzon@masto.ai 1 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org same same.

[–] marnic@framapiaf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
Merci pour la découverte.
Mais le souci sera le même que Chrome au final, dépendre de l'évolution de FF pour le code principal.

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[–] Luna@mastodon.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Got rid of Chrome for Chromium I guess Firefox will have to be replaced with an alternative as well since they decided to follow in Google's footsteps.

[–] bigTanuki@social.linux.pizza 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

@davidrevoy@framapiaf.org Thank you for being on the right side of history, like … always 😊

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