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The white house is claiming that columbia isn't cooperating.
columbia very likely is. They were all on board with retaliation against students earlier.
I would assume some admin are being held back by the school lawyers, only , who see massive, huge, and extraordinary law suits later should government change the the better
Yeah. After getting police and MAGA mobs to beat up student camps, after attacking students and faculty using their direct means, simply for voicing opposition to war crimes and genocide, this seems to be just the public front.
There is no reason to believe that Columbia would change their stance for the better now. Also as they seem to see themselves as a business first, rather than an educational space, they will be working to get back those 400 Million from Trump.
This is no arrest. It's kidnapping. There is not even the flimsiest of legal justifications for these abductions.
Trump cut $400 million in federal funding despite them doing basically everything Trump wanted from them earlier. I hope this statement means someone inside the university is realizing that appeasement doesn't work. Trump will keep demanding more from you and want you to be complicit in worse and worse actions with no end - until you stand up
Yeah, it would be great if Columbia just acceded to the protesters fully and divested from Israel in response to this.
I sort of suspect that they’ve realized, belatedly, that it might come back around on them in some way, and that’s what they are concerned about. Not about freedoms of speech and the civil society in which they have all their fancy buildings, or about Khalil or his wife and family.
Edit: Their statement of support after the modern day Gestapo came to their campus and randomly snatched one of their students is still up as of right now:
There have been reports of ICE around campus. Columbia has and will continue to follow the law. Consistent with our longstanding practice and the practice of cities and institutions throughout the country, law enforcement must have a judicial warrant to enter non-public University areas, including University buildings. Columbia is committed to complying with all legal obligations and supporting our student body and campus community.
https://communications.news.columbia.edu/news/statement-ice-reports
Then, they realized that wasn’t quite strong enough, and so they made an updated one:
There have been reports of ICE in the streets around campus. Columbia has and will continue to follow the law. We want to again communicate to our campus community that we have a protocol in place, which includes phone numbers to call in case you are approached on or off campus. Consistent with this protocol, and consistent with our longstanding practice and the practice of cities and institutions throughout the country, law enforcement must have a judicial warrant to enter non-public University areas, including residential University buildings. Columbia is committed to complying with all legal obligations and supporting our student body and campus community. We are also committed to the legal rights of our students and urge all members of the community to be respectful of those rights.
https://communications.news.columbia.edu/news/further-statement-ice-reports
The last one is probably the most tragically hilarious, but too long to politely include in full here:
https://president.columbia.edu/news/leading-through-challenging-time
An excerpt:
We will support our community. I understand the distress that many of you are feeling about the presence of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in the streets around campus. I feel it too and am working with our team to manage the response. Resources for students are listed below.
They include contact information for a religious life advisor, in case your university’s absolutely abject lack of giving a shit about your physical safety has caused you to give up entirely on the physical realm.
I feel like you're reading their posts as boot licking, when actually they're pretty clearly stating, "we follow the law, and the law says you can't do this".
I don't know what you expect, an open statement of their intent to break the law? As though that's going to go better for the school/students?
I don’t know what you expect, an open statement of their intent to break the law? As though that’s going to go better for the school/students?
You're using a curious definition of "break the law."
Nothing that is happening to their students is legal. They have the option to say "As of today, we will not cooperate in any form with these particular federal authorities, because they are clearly breaking American law and endangering the safety of people who are in our care." That would be kind of a bare minimum. If they wanted to use some of that staggering pile of money at their disposal to hire armed security, backed by high-paid lawyers to make sure that they had some legal backing for their use of force against warrantless intrusions, that would be nice too. And also, to sic those same lawyers on the authorities that have Khalil imprisoned, at least try to put some pressure on so he doesn't just slip away.
There are a lot of municipalities that have that kind of policy against cooperating with ICE, for exactly that reason. Some of their leaders were just summoned to congress to explain themselves, and apparently did so in a pretty vigorous fashion. Is that safe for them? Not really, in the current climate. They did it anyway.
Sometimes shit hits the fan, man. If someone comes in your house and starts snatching your family members, what are you supposed to do? "Oh I can't stop him, that would be violent"?
Starting to resist illegal violence against you is necessary, even if it's not safe. Failing to resist is infinitely less safe.
Yes, I know it's easy for me to sit here at my computer and type all bravely about how they should take a stand when they have a bunch of stuff to lose. Typing is more than they did. They couldn't even muster the stones to type out a direct statement about how it's wrong to snatch students and put them in indefinite detention when they haven't done anything. So, like I said, fuck 'em.
Khalil had some stuff to lose too, and he still tried to fight for the rights of vulnerable people. Go tell his pregnant wife that it would be better for the school/student that they don't try to make too many waves about what happened / what is happening to him.
https://www.mintpressnews.com/professor-columbia-university-scandal-former-israeli-spy/289231/
Mahmoud Khalil, a recent graduate of the university’s School of International and Public Affairs (SIPA), was abducted by Immigration Customs Enforcement (ICE) Saturday for his role in organizing protests last year against Israel’s attack on Gaza. Khalil’s dean, Dr. Keren Yarhi-Milo, head of the School of International and Public Affairs, is a former Israeli military intelligence officer and official at Israel’s Mission to the United Nations. Yarhi-Milo played a significant role in drumming up public concern about a supposed wave of intolerable anti-Semitism sweeping over the campus, thereby laying the groundwork for the extensive crackdown on civil liberties that has followed the protests.
Students are already not going to class because they don’t want to be in public and risk being scooped up by Trumps gestapo.