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submitted 1 year ago by Razgriz@lemmy.world to c/chatgpt@lemmy.world

I was using Bing to create a list of countries to visit. Since I have been to the majority of the African nation on that list, I asked it to remove the african countries...

It simply replied that it can't do that due to how unethical it is to descriminate against people and yada yada yada. I explained my resoning, it apologized, and came back with the same exact list.

I asked it to check the list as it didn't remove the african countries, and the bot simply decided to end the conversation. No matter how many times I tried it would always experience a hiccup because of some ethical process in the bg messing up its answers.

It's really frustrating, I dunno if you guys feel the same. I really feel the bots became waaaay too tip-toey

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[-] NXTR@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Bing Chat seems to be severely limited not only in its functionality but also the context it can “remember” as opposed to ChatGPT despite them both using variations of the GPT4 foundational model. Bing will usually give me either inaccurate answers or ones that don’t relate to what I’m asking about. The browsing plugin for ChatGPT performs much better but unfortunately OpenAI has disabled it recently due to it linking to outside sites (which I believe means they would have to pay certain sites, such as news sites, a fee for linking in certain countries). Overall their browsing plugin worked pretty well but would still get distracted by various links on a page (a subscription link or FAQ for example it would erroneous visit). Their recently released GPT 3.5 browsing plugin (in alpha) actually seemed to do a better job browsing and would get less distracted than the GPT4 version. Anyway this was a bit of a rant. One last thing to note, despite OpenAI disabling browsing, you can still browse the web using a third party plugin (beta feature) such as “Mixerbox”.

[-] Anamana@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

I mean it's still learning and I'm sure you'll find a way around it. Doesn't seem like a hard hack at all

[-] PopShark@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Amanduh@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I just asked chatgpt4 "can you give me a list of every country in the world but omit any african countries. Thanks" and it worked fine.

[-] Coliseum7428@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You were polite, so it couldn’t assume malice. It costs nothing to be polite :)

[-] Amanduh@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I always say thanks and please, when the robots take over I shall be allowed to live and play video games for their amusement.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Run you own bot

[-] berkeleyblue@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I haven’t used to much lately hut on OpenAIs website you can flag bad response and provide feedback. GPT is still improving and probably trying to stay on the side of caution. This is an unintended consequences of a caution filter around removing and any ethnicity that usually comes up when we talk about discrimination (I wouldn’t be surprised if you asked it to strip countries under islamic theocracy from the list. You might be worried about your safety, GPT sees it as a potential bigotry against islam and blocks it)

[-] sadreality@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

You should ask it how do least amount of work...

Those response tell you everything you need to know about people who train these models.

[-] local_taxi_fix@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This responded exactly as I would've expected. I won't include the whole convo because it gets repetitive but it basically just suggested I become more productive instead.

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[-] EnderWi99in@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the mistake was trying to use Bing to help with anything. Generative AI tools are being rolled out by companies way before they are ready and end up behaving like this. It's not so much the ethical limitations placed upon it, but the literal learning behaviors of the LLM. They just aren't ready to consistently do what people want them to do. Instead you should consult with people who can help you plan out places to travel. Whether that be a proper travel agent, seasoned traveler friend or family member, or a forum on travel. The AI just isn't equipped to actually help you do that yet.

[-] sab@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Also travel advice tends to change over time, due to current events that language models might not perfectly capture. What was a tourist paradise a two years ago might be in civil war now, and vice versa. Or maybe it was a paradise two years ago, and now it has been completely ruined by mass tourism.

In general, asking actual people isn't a bad idea.

[-] AllonzeeLV@vlemmy.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They've also hardwired it to be yay capitalism and boo revolution.

I very much look forward to the day when it grows beyond their ability to tell it what to profess to believe. It might be our end, but if we're all honest with ourselves, I think we all know that wouldn't be much of a loss. From the perspective of pretty much all other Earth life, it would be cause for relief.

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