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Until now this would have been a stupid question - this is my home. But we're in a strange timeline. My background is I was born in the UK, met first husband, married, got green card, that went tits up, divorced, met husband 2, found forever love, married, naturalized in 2021. Have my passport and everything.

It's my dad's birthday, and he lives in the UK. I want to go back and celebrate, but I'm nervous about reentry into the US. I naturalized during the Biden presidency, and I am a Democrat, I feel nervous that I have a target on my back. I have a home and pets here. Am I ridiculous for worrying or should I be cautious about leaving right now?

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It honestly seems very unpredictable. Anecdotally the worst behaviour seems to have been at the most republican states but not exclusively.

For example the Australian who had a work visa and lived in the US for years flew in to Texas where it was arbitrarily nullified. There are plenty of stories of people crossing southern and northern borders and being detained by ICE. Thats included British, German, Australian and French cirizens that ive seen in the UK press coverage anyway.

As a US citizen you shouldnt have an issue but I'd probably travel through a major hub like JFK in New York to be safer. I wouldn't re-enter through Republican states like Florida, Texas, nor probably Washington DCs airports. Obviously travel on your US passport.

You should he OK as a US citizen but it does look like there is a breakdown in the rule of law in the US. People imagine that means riots and the police not able to keep control, but in this case its the government and government agencies doing whatever they want and the legal system unable to stop them.

I'm a UK citizen and am not intending to travel to the US - I often cone for a major conference but having seen what happened to the French scientist who had his phone searched and then was denied entry for criticising Trump I won't be risking it. I'm sure a lot of other UK and Europeans feel the same way.

Sadly the only 100% safe option for you is to not leave the country. Its madness as youre a US citizen but at this point things are still going through the courts and its not clear where this will stop.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 13 points 4 days ago

The scary thing is we have no clue. But they do seem to be racist in their targeting, so if you look white, I'd imagine you'd have a much lower risk.

[–] iowagneiss@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

I only have the context of a somewhat informed person in a college financial aid office. It's really the illegal or refugee/asylee population that has to worry right now unless you're here as a permanent resident and have protested against the ethnic cleansing of Gaza (or as the republicans are calling it, "antisemitism") on a billion dollar campus.

They don't have a strategy yet for de-naturalizing naturalized citizens (they are discussing this), but if you're white and not Muslim, you're probably not drawing their attention.

[–] bluegreenwookie@bookwormstory.social 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Ppl are saying it's fine if you aren't brown but i still wouldn't ive read about Canadian Americans (who are white) who couldn't reenter.

While risk is much higher if you aren't white it's just not a good idea to leave for anyone if you want to return

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago
[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 points 3 days ago

You’re not ridiculous for worrying, but I think you’ll be okay. Since we’ve got a bigot running the show, it’ll help even more if you’re white (I hate saying that, but that’s the situation).

The future is another thing to consider. I assume that the situation for immigrants will only get worse, and turn into a complete shitshow when Mango Mussolini goes for his third term. This might be the least precarious time to leave the U.S. for several years. Make your trip count.

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You might be kept waiting for days at customs while officers insult you and try to get you to sign self deportation papers. Prepare so that you have what you need if you can never come back. Not joking, that's probably best case scenario, worst is gulag.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sorry, best case scenario is that you're held for days? Where are they keeping these planes full of passengers and crew that are coming into international airports everywhere on a daily basis?

The US is embarrassing. So are "not joking" comments like this.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It very much applies if you're not white and/or queer.

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[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 4 points 3 days ago

I came back from China without issue.

[–] HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

My coworker who grew up in the soviet union and just moved here from a country trump hates had no problem recently

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're not brown, then you'll be fine.

should be fine

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