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[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I've watched IT Crowd half a dozen times.

I haven't managed to finish an episode of BBT before I switch it off in disgust.

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[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (5 children)

In my mind, I still picture this as the archetype of an office's boss inside a boss's office. If it doesn't have the 4th breaking wall picture, then it's a fake boss

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

See, a real boss, ready to work for the greater good

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[–] sigmabot@crazypeople.online 286 points 4 days ago (16 children)

big bang theory is about what dumb people think smart people are like.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 28 points 3 days ago

apologies for the pixels, I stole it from reddit

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People be forgetting that the first season or two of the big bang theory was legitimately very good.

The first season or two of the IT crowd was... oh yeah, the whole show.

IT crowd's best episodes were best-in-class. tnetennba. But it had a lot of meh too.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The thing about the IT crowd is they always try and walk it in

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

For sure it's no contest. Did you see that ludicrous display last night?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Cooper always tries to walk it in.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

The big bang theory was not for geeks or nerds. It was pure shit.

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Misogynistic pure shit.

[–] dQw4w9WgXcQ@lemm.ee 21 points 3 days ago

It had a good few first episodes with fun geeky jokes, but it quickly turned to bad jokes and lazy stereotypes and relied loosely on stereotypes to contain the geekyness.

[–] ZeffSyde@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I always felt like it was a show for moms of geeks and nerds that missed their kids once they moved out.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (3 children)

No... the IT crowd is a sitcom FOR geeks. That other shit just makes fun of us

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[–] MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If BBT was made today it would be accused of being written by AI. Fully flanderised characters, and endless filler episodes.

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 134 points 3 days ago (13 children)

The Big Bang Theory was frustratingly bad.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 153 points 3 days ago (10 children)

Saw a critic call it, “Nerd blackface”

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 58 points 3 days ago

IT crowd is about nerds for nerds. Big Bang theory is about nerds for non nerds. "Nerd blackface" is more succinct though.

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[–] HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I saw some clips on YT where they removed the laugh track.

It's really hard to find the show funny when they take out the bit where it tells you when to laugh.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

No no IT Crowd is a show about sysadmins, not geeks lol. There's a very clear difference.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (6 children)

And Moss was a nerd not a geek. He wasn’t obsessing about comics, videogames etc. like the characters in BBT.

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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 104 points 3 days ago (13 children)
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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago

BBT is a show about smart people for dumb people. The IT Crowd is a show about smart people.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 91 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Because, similar to blackface in its time, people love to point and laugh at exaggerated caricatures of something different from themselves.

And CBS airs lowest common denominator garbage that the masses devour.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 53 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I watched one random episode of BBT after it was recommended to me by a few people. That one episode was enough for me to decide that I never want to see that show again, and also that I should disregard all recommendations from the people who said I should watch it.

[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago (4 children)

The laugh track alone is enough evidence

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[–] jonesey71@lemmus.org 28 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I watched a scene where someone posted it without the laugh track and it was super cringey. Semi-related note.. Taking the laugh track out of BBT ruins it, but taking Garfield out of Garfield comics takes it to a new level, see here -> https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

IT Crows was amazing, I laughed to death. Where the bigbang theory was not so funny, too much detail IMO.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

IT Crowd was three British goofballs doing elaborate running gags over 24 episodes.

BBT was four creepy bigots and a nice blonde woman doing pop culture references and calling one another stupid for 279 episodes before spinning out an 80s nostalgia prequel series.

It was the difference between a few cherished cleverly crafted comedy routines and endless derivative slop.

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[–] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

I've only seen the one episode of BBT, I think the first one, where a goddamn theoretical physicist spends a whole day forgetting the basic properties of light.

My family stared at me the whole time, expecting me to find it funny. Then THEY got mad at me when I said that was the dumbest shit I've seen in a while. Later I found out that Sheldon uses Ubuntu and brags about it.

But, okay, dumb jokes aside - the show doesn't explore any concepts or situations in new and interesting ways And THAT'S why it's bad.

Shelden uses linux. Hahahaha. That's it. A good writer could make a whole episode about that, alone, and it would be hilarious. Imagine him on internet forums. Imagine him fumbling during a talk because his laptop wouldn't work with whatever vidchat/system/software his hosts used, and getting haughty about it. Imagine Sheldon traveling across the country to "fix" an entire auditoriums tech to run on Arch after his failed remote speech. Walking away all "You're Welcome" as the staff can't figure out how the fuck to use it.

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[–] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (3 children)

If I had to rate the IT crowd out of ten, I'd give it 01189998819991197253

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[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've always saw BBT as just a way to re-normalize making fun of neurodivergant people.

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[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 68 points 4 days ago (15 children)

Except for that one transphobic episode that Graham Linehan has ruined his whole life over instead of going "Yeah, I'm sorry, that was a bit insensitive."

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 127 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

EDIT: since I don't want the top reply not to mention this, fuck IT Crowd creator Graham Linehan for the incalculable damage he's done to innocent trans people. He's a worthless, disgusting bigot.


Honestly, I always found that episode... Weirdly progressive? Even maybe by accident? Consider the following:

  • The trans woman April is legitimately physically attractive and with a distinctly feminine voice to match.
  • She's a legitimately very sweet, intelligent, and earnest person.
  • She tells Douglas upfront in no uncertain terms that she's trans (she phrases this as "I used to be a man", but honestly, considering both 2008 and the fact it was used to setup a joke, I think this isn't too transphobic? A trans person in 2008 might've even said this because there was less of a support network to understand that you always were a woman.)
  • Douglas gets upset because he thinks he's been tricked, but 1) he absolutely was not, and the episode makes this crystal clear that it's because April made every effort and he's just an absolute dumbass, and 2) Douglas has been portrayed in the show to this point as nothing but a juvenile, overdramatic, chauvanistic sack of shit, and we're clearly not supposed to be rooting for him.
  • She's a fantastic girlfriend and becomes the love of his life. A big part of this is because she has a duality between traditional femininity and an interest in traditionally masculine activities, but I also don't think this is terrible representation? I have a trans woman friend who carries herself in a traditionally feminine way but hasn't dropped more traditionally masculine activities that she grew up enjoying.
  • She throws the first hit at the end, but this is after Douglas dumps her on the spot after they've hit it off, had sex, and confessed their love for each other because he was too stupid to listen, he tells her to get lost, he basically calls her gross to her face by talking in a disgusted tone about "that operation you had", and flat-out denies her existence as a woman.
  • It's made very evident that if Douglas weren't transphobic, he could've lived the rest of his life with a woman who's established to be literally perfect for him.
[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago

100% agree. It paints trans women favorably and makes Douglas the asshole like he deserves.

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 61 points 3 days ago (6 children)

It’s cuz they work as a team. An IT team. Team, team, team. Team players, each and every one.

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[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 55 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you think otherwise, you're head disabled.

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