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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

built, not bought.

[–] HailSeitan@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

This sounds like the company from Cory Doctorow’s most recent novel, Picks & Shovels

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 96 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Broadcom released a free VMware again, Synology is locking down their products,... Did Synology just hire some brain dead Broadcom executive?

This is seriously 'how to kill your brand and customer good will in one easy step' type nonsense.
Synology does not have the respect in Enterprise that someone like Dell or HPE does. They exist in Enterprise because of admins who use it at home and then bring the knowledge to work.

All this does is make sure nobody will buy one for the home anymore. There are too many other good options. And various open source NAS OS choices becoming more mature by the day.

If I was an OEM like Beelink or Servermicro I would be rushing to make an unbranded storage box, five or six 3.5 in SATA hot swap bays in front, 2-4 NVMe ports on the bottom, decent low power CPU, and an SODIMM socket or two. They'd sell a ton of them.

I also wouldn't be surprised if a Synology 'jailbreak' to load a third party OS comes out.

[–] undu@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Did Synology just hire some brain dead Broadcom executive?

Well, Citrix's CEO was Broadcom' software boss

And also hasa place at the US treasury, he's DOGE-affiliated as well: https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/2025/citrix-parent-ceo-krause-on-doge-role-we-re-applying-public-company-standards-to-the-federal-government

[–] oppy1984@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My employer uses Citrix to run our proprietary apps. Every "upgrade" they issued just made it worse to the point that it was crashing multiple times and day. Since we're a 24/7 operation we had to have IT on standby all the time to reboot the servers every time they crashed. Citrix support said there was nothing in the logs other than the crashes so it must be our brand new hardware.

It got so bad that corporate paid the IT team extra to build a web based version as a backup. It's slower than Citrix but at least when Citrix crashes we have a fallback that works.

Thankfully corporate has given the green light for a custom built system, so now we're all just waiting for the corporate machine to go through the bidding process so we can start working with whoever they pick.

[–] debil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well,

Broadcom released a free VMware again

should be taken as a bait to lure in unsuspecting users before later stage enshit tactics happen. Synology seems to be at some other point in their enshit process, but enshit nevertheless.

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago

Oh absolutely. Without a doubt. Broadcom / VMware have lost trust for good

[–] Tja@programming.dev 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

QNAP, Asustor, UGreen, Unifi, and many others already offer lower cost NASes from 2 to 8 bays (some might offer even more)

[–] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago

Oh tons of alternatives for sure. Where I'm at, at this point if I go somewhere else I'm going to want open source most likely.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 9 points 1 week ago (4 children)

If I was an OEM like Beelink or Servermicro I would be rushing to make an unbranded storage box, five or six 3.5 in SATA hot swap bays in front, 2-4 NVMe ports on the bottom, decent low power CPU, and an SODIMM socket or two. They'd sell a ton of them.

There's no shortage of alternatives to Synology hardware. People buy Synology because of the software.

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[–] CocaineShrimp@lemm.ee 79 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hold up. Let me get this straight - Synology is trying to make their NASs only work with their own proprietary hard drives? Do they not realize that there are boat loads of other companies out there making NASs and Hard Drives?

Who the hell is going to want to buy a Synology NAS now? Ffs, some of these companies are so delusional...

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is there a reason to think all the other companies couldn't start doing it to?

[–] Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

because tons and tons of potential solutions exist. At the core of this class of product is a very simple computer that costs next to nothing. FOSS software exists to accomplish the same goal and for minimal cost someone can compete with them.

Synology doesn't really control anything. In the enterprise segment they tend to be tiny little offerings that are on the small end of SMB. Their bigger bulkier enterprise stuff is easily overshadowed by any real enterprise offering from a larger hardware company, though i've seen some exist even in larger orgs but it's not because something else couldn't have done the job.

Anyone starting fresh has to do some work to catch up but it really depends on the use case. Basic NAS/DAS functions are so trivial.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Even if the drive prices are not raised to unreasonable levels, if ever Synology decides to stop selling these drives the NAS you have purchased will become useless. Think I'll pass.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

It doesn't become useless, it just misses out on a bunch of useful features for the drives.

Still ridiculous, of course

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[–] Crampon@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm in the market for my first NAS. Synology made the choice a bit easier.

Thank you.

[–] NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

You picked an excellent time (in terms of consumer choice on NAS's). I've been using a DS920+ for the past few years, and the software is solid (e.g. the core apps like Drive, Photos, etc). Synology is (was?) also always number one in terms of security. But honestly, there's little to no reason to expose your NAS to the internet these days since tools like Tailscale make life a lot easier (and safer).

That being said, I also was a beta tester for Ugreen's NAS(es) last year. Their software sucked at the time, but it's gotten way better. The hardware itself is gorgeous, and they don't skimp on parts. The one I have is one they never intended to sell in the US: DX4700 (they sell the DXP4800). This one has an Intel N5105 (predecessor to the N100), 8GB RAM, and dual NVME slots (for cache or for storage). Plus they listened to us testers when we told them to allow third party OS installs without voiding the warranty (e.g. OpenMediaVault, etc).

Point is, no matter who you go with or if you build your own, it's a good time (minus tarrifs).

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 6 days ago

Hmmm so you're telling me to go with Ugreen, got it

[–] Crampon@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Thanks for your answer. Om considering the DXP4800. I'm forced to buy one soon because my drives on the desktop are soon full.

[–] trustnoone@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 1 week ago

This is the silliest thing I've ever heard, do they even know their audience.

[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (6 children)
[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 week ago

Fixed

Worked-around, you mean. And that hack seems temporary.

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[–] Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This sucks as a long time Synology customer. They really should know their audience better.

Oh well. Back to proxmox to handle everything

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

My switch to Unraid is feeling better every day 😀

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is sad to see. I’ve moved on to Raspberry Pi + hard disk enclosure (with incredible performance) but it’s still upsetting to see Synology go this route.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One point: if it matters to you, you might want to confirm your enclosure's behavior under power-loss conditions. I had one that did not come back to a powered on state or have an option to do so when power was restored. Not something I'd thought of, since I'd assumed this behavior. Eventually, after some looking, found an enclosure with a mechanical-toggle power switch that did restore prior state.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It does matter to me and I live in an area with frequent power outages. Unfortunately I didn’t check this out before purchasing so I’m pretty annoyed by this behavior.

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[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago

I switched from a HP MicroServer with TrueNAS (the BSD one) to a Synology 8-bay system because of convenience, mostly (DIY 8-bay with hot swap, low idle power and all seems hard to come by).

Hopefully it'll last for years to come but if I ever need to replace/upgrade it it's not gonna be another Synology with this type of extreme vendor lock-in.

[–] ToadOfHypnosis@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I bought a Terramaster instead. Better hardware specs for the money and you can overwrite the OS with Linux which is way better than any stock OS.

[–] abrahambelch@programming.dev 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Their website looks pretty sketchy, ngl

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sketch? Nah bro, that is exactly the kind of "This looked sick in the early 2000s and we haven't bothered updating it since" level of design that I want to see from a hardware vendor. That's a company that's just sitting there quietly trucking along, making nerdy devices for nerdy people. That's a website that was never intended to be viewed by anyone other than a 30+ year old sysadmin who owns at least one beard grooming product.

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[–] mbirth@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

This is what I’ll replace my DS415+ with, too, once it dies. The TerraMasters are basically bog-standard Intel NUCs with a storage adapter. And there’s HDMI output and an internal USB drive which you can just replace (or overwrite) and install OMV or TrueNAS or whatever.

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[–] Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

So glad I went with asustor. Synology lost their god damned minds

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have an Asustor that is running Debian. It's just a PC in a NAS enclosure so why should it not.

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