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Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

At least in the U.S. and Canada, that is.

This was brought to my attention thanks to a Reddit post where a user (presumably a resident of Canada), had posted how Lenovo was shipping laptops with Fedora and Ubuntu at a cheaper price compared to their Windows-equipped counterparts.

Others then chimed in, saying that Lenovo has been doing this since at least 2020 and that the big price difference shows how ridiculous Windows' pricing is.

Cutting the Windows Tax

When I dug in further, I found out that the US and Canadian websites for Lenovo offered U.S. $140 and CAD $211 off on the same ThinkPad X1 Carbon model when choosing any one of the Linux-based alternatives.

Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installedLenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

US pricing on left, Canadian pricing on right.

Interestingly, while the difference in pricing is noticeable, your mileage may vary if you are looking for such laptops on the official website. Not all models from their laptop lineup, like ThinkPad, Yoga, Legion, LOQ, etc., feature an option to get Linux pre-installed during the checkout process.

Luckily, there is an easy way to filter through the numerous laptops. Just go to the laptops section (U.S.) on the Lenovo website and turn on the "Operating System" filter under the Filter by specs sidebar menu.

Lenovo Cuts the Windows Tax and offers Cheaper Laptops with Linux Pre-installed

Yes, it's as simple as that. You can do the same for the various official online regional storefronts that Lenovo runs to see whether Linux-based operating systems are being offered on their laptops in your country.

Closing Thoughts

It is good to see that Lenovo is offering Linux in its laptops. In fact, there is another big-name laptop manufacturer, Dell, who also does something similar with its Ubuntu-certified laptops, but both have the same constraint of having limited options for buyers.

Also, as far as I know, Dell doesn't reduce the pricing if you choose Linux instead of Windows. Correct me if I am wrong in the comments.

Nonetheless, I think these manufacturers could do a better job in marketing these Linux-based alternative operating systems to general consumers, showing them how they can save big when opting for these instead of the pricey and bloated Windows.

Otherwise, we might have to start observing Windows Refund Day again.

πŸ’¬ Your take on this? Would mainstream users benefit from having Linux pre-installed on their laptops?


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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 60 points 1 day ago (5 children)

It kinda blows my mind that "no OS" isn't the cheapest option

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

I seem to recall in the past Microsoft pressured manufacturers to not sell computers without an operating system, arguing that unscrupulous consumers would install pirated copies of Windows on them. A ridiculous argument, but it was the excuse they used.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's the same reason that you have to pay more to stream videos without ads...

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, smart TVs with no OS are way more expensive than the ones riddled with ads as well.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I changed to the projectivity launcher on my Android TV and it was night and day in terms of performance. No ads. The UI doesn't change every other week to make me look at some new show I don't care about. I can literally just hide everything I don't want to see.

I should probably look into actual entire OS swaps available for my TV but I don't have the time. Changing the launcher and using ADB (over lan) to disable updates and apply some optimizations was worth the day it took me.

Turns out the hardware on the TV is fine. The software was just complete garbage and got worse with every update.

Now if only I could fix the UI in the actual apps like YouTube. But still it's a lot better. I'll probably install the YouTube alternative app one day when I have time.

My wife started using the TV over her tablet after I changed it. She said she hated how slow it was to just turn on and start that she just would go to her tablet instead.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 3 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, out of the box experience is terrible. I wish we could've installed custom ROMs on TVs too but most of them are vendor-locked. Projectivity Launcher is a life saver. Default everything is just bad. I did a similar thing and removed many apps via ADB.

For Youtube alternative, SmartTube is the best. You can sideload it via ADB.

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[–] ObstreperousCanadian@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 day ago (7 children)

2025 is the year of the Linux ~~desktop~~ laptop!

[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Since installing Linux, my battery life has more than doubled.

That alone is reason enough to switch to Linux

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 74 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is awesome and I love it. Maybe they could even take a few more dollars off by not having any OS installed (bypassing the labor costs of imaging an SSD). I’ll be installing my own copy anyway, so I’m fine with a blank SSD.

[–] Successful_Try543@feddit.org 40 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Those manufacturers where you can select either Linux or no OS don't charge extra for Linux.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I mean it’s like maybe a dollar or two for the labor costs, so that’s understandable. I’d still prefer just a blank SSD anyway.

[–] imecth@fedia.io 2 points 22 hours ago

The cost is actually negative given that they get to pre-install whatever software they want into it.

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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 12 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Installing my own OS is half the fun of getting a new computer. Why would I want the manufacturer to install an OS?

[–] EndHD@lemm.ee 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

you get the discount + you can reinstall it yourself/install a different distro + it shows the general market how much of the cost is due to a Windows license and other OS alternatives, creating more informed consumers

i see it as a benefit

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[–] dyc3@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Idk maybe so you can start using it?

Nothing is stopping you from throwing out the OEM install.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 4 points 22 hours ago

Hopefully they start selling the Linux version in my country ngl

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 day ago

Here in Europe it was possible to buy almost all laptops and desktops from Lenovo without OS preinstalled since long time, saved a lot of money that way. It's nice that they officially offer Linux now.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 35 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I thought OEMs only paid like $10 for Windows?

[–] adarza@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

they tend to make money off it due to the bundle deals and commissions and what-not.

a major oem charging $140-200 is all profit.

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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It's usually 10% of the device MSRP for windows pro.

There are some very low cost devices that get it for $10 for windows home..

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[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Computer companies tried that for a while like 15 years ago, too.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Except now you don't need to run proprietary software. Everything is online. If Chromebooks work for 90% of users, Linux will work for even more.

[–] SpaceCheeseWizard@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The timing here with compatability getting better could be a huge difference maker.

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[–] trolololol@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I quite like their laptops but they put the most horrible keyboards I've ever used. I've had chronic rsi and my fingers physically hurt less than 8h of use.

Do they have high end laptops (32g RAM, top i7 or similar, for Android development) at reasonable prices with good keyboards? I've been on Xps for a while.

[–] easily3667@lemmus.org 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You....don't like Thinkpad keyboards? You may be alone in this.

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