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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Can someone explain why Israel is so important to them? Aren’t these the same people who are antisemic? Additionally, how does supporting Israel make the us a Christian nation?

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago

The American economy since WW2 has relied on funding and supplying armed conflict.

No other entity has supplied more justification for that end.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 87 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is brilliant, you could have the gestasi inspecting everyone at the checkouts at a supermarket, and if you don't buy a Sodastream cartridge, you get disappeared.

(Sodastream is an Israeli company, and used to manufacture their machines in an industrial park in an Israeli settlement on the West Bank)

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Sodastream is an Israeli company

I didn't know that. Good thing I've been boycotting their cylinders for years.

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[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 72 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

How is this to enforced. Is there to be a Israeli mandated amount of product that you would need to buy.

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago

Vague laws can be abused easier.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Please drink a verification can"

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[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 21 points 1 day ago

You will be expected to wear your Israeli pager at all times

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[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Law is summarized as:

Prohibited actions include (1) refusing to do business with companies organized under the laws of the boycotted country, if the refusal is pursuant to an agreement with or request from the country or IGO imposing the boycott; (2) refusing to employ any U.S. person on the basis of race, religion, sex, or national origin; and (3) furnishing information about whether someone is associated with charitable or fraternal organizations that support the boycotted country.

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[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

How to hack your GDP while ordinary people suffer

  1. Private weapons manufacturers make more weapons than should ever be needed.

Why? Your country gained its wealth by becoming the world's largest weapons manufacturer, making it the greatest financial beneficiary of WW2. That manufacturing infrastructure didn't just disappear overnight.

  1. Large government subsidies to countries like Israel which aren't actually cash, rather they are purchases of these privately manufactured weapons using taxpayer dollars. These are given to Israel and other countries / entities in the world which perpetuate military conflict in order to keep feeding the machine.

There you have it. Production and consumption which keeps your GDP and GDP per capita growing without providing a meaningful benefit to humanity.

[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 31 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How will they enforce it? Does the government send out Israeli products by mail to Americans and then arrest whomever refuses to pay for the products they didn't ask for? Ordering people to buy specific products can't be even remotely legal. Buy Tesla cars or go to jail, is what this amounts to.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here is the bill (it's like two pages)

I'm not a lawyer so I could be reading this wrong but this law doesn't apply directly to citizens, per se.

The law that it modifies basically makes it illegal for a company to contractually require you to boycott another company that you disagree with, but one that is allied toward the US.

For example, imagine you're the CEO of ACME and you want to do business with Aperture Science, Inc. Aperture can't, as a condition of you doing business with them, restrict you from working with Israeli companies.

That all being said, I do not trust this administration will use the law for it's intended purpose and will instead use it as a club to beat people with.

[–] Mattmercer@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you. I've been so confused seeing this bill sent around with people saying it's intended to punish any given individual for choosing to not buy from Israel. I could absolutely be wrong (I'm also not an attorney), but it definitely reads like you have to either be pressured or compensated by a foreign nation (or an IGO if this bill passes) to be impacted by this.

That said, your last point is completely fair...so maybe people are right to worry as though this will get used against them even if they're not boycotting in league with a foreign power. With the folks in this admin, maybe it will 🤷🏻‍♂️

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[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

This is a cudgel to use against leftist activists when they are identified through social media skimming and illegal surveillance. The charge of antisemitic activity will be constructed parallel to their desire to brutalize them.

And they all get a stack of AIPAC cash to implement this too.

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[–] RymrgandsDaughter@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What goods or services does Israel provide that we're "boycotting "

[–] Alaik@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently we import a ton of legislation.

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They dont, they boycotting is aim at company that actively participate in the genocide. Microsoft Cloud and AI services for and other Software and Hardware companies for example. Companies that donate money to them or they have headquarter in illegal occupied land. And many others. The BDS movement for example provide a list of companies highlighted by the United Nations to be performing illegal activities in the west bank.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 day ago

I'm going to guess that they're trying to make it seem like boycotts are a serious threat. It's a start but not enough.

[–] LordOfLocksley@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The courts won't enforce this right, because of freedom of speech, right?

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Freedom of what? Sounds like something communist to me /s

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