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[–] nous@programming.dev 365 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Yen also pointed out how such a court decision could help cut inflation in the US, too, "by dropping the price of a significant chunk of digital purchases by 30% overnight".

I bet most companies will just take that extra 30% as profit rather than giving it back to their users like proton has.

[–] athairmor@lemmy.world 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Yeah, even of the companies don’t pocket the difference, he’s an idiot to suggest that this will cut inflation.

This guy is just not very smart, I think.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 113 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think he’s a salesperson trying to sell the idea that getting rid of the apple tax is good for consumers.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago (9 children)

getting rid of the apple tax is good for consumers.

I mean that's not wrong. I had no idea Apple was double-dipping like this. I wonder if Google is doing the same thing...

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Every store does this. Even Holy Valve

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Every company who takes a cut from in-app purchases, be it subscriptions or DLC, should be kneecapped by this ruling.

It's one thing for the hosting marketplace (App Store, Steam, Play Store, etc) to take a cut from the initial purchase of a game/app. But it's a whole other issue for that initial marketplace to keep reaching further into the dev's pockets and take a cut from in-app purchases unrelated to where it was originally obtained.

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[–] hikaru755@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

What? Since when does Valve prohibit companies from redirecting customers to non-Valve purchasing flows? Because that's what this ruling is about, it says Apple can't prohibit apps from telling users to go buy off-platform for lower prices. Valve isn't doing that with Steam afaik, actually I'm not aware of any other platform that does this

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[–] plz1@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Yeah, Proton is bucking the obvious trend, with this one. Most companies will totally take the profits rather than lowering prices.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Companies that were app-first like mobile games probably won't cut prices much if any. Companies that were web-first like Proton and Patreon probably will.

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[–] philycheeze@sh.itjust.works 130 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Do he still think fascism is good for small businesses though?

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[–] commander@lemmy.world 90 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Damn. People here sure love purity testing. The guy could pay for their cancer treatment and still slap him every chance because they got it wrong publicly in the past but once you get it wrong publicly once, you're out of the club. Go be a conservative we don't want you. When someone at Tuta has a bad year and ends up in the wrong publicly, find another email service to try and convince people to go too. Probably worse in functionality than Tuta as you go down to smaller and worse funded efforts in this niche field of Internet activism

But people here do it here too to Mozilla because they don't like their social outreach programs and their attempts to get advertising revenue so screw Mozilla too. So because nothing but perfection is acceptable, push away people that may be adjacent/left leaning right and switch to less developed products. Switch from Firefox and attack Mozilla who do the bulk of Firefox development and use Waterfox who do a custom deployment/build. Pure display of perfection being the enemy of good here.

You want people to embrace privacy but keep whiplashing people around when the org/anyone in leadership says something wrong. Screw Signal, they're not perfect. Screw Matrix/Element, some developer said something one day so it's all bad. I'm surprised anyone here uses any privacy software or a major open source software like Linux or Krita or Blender at the risk that someone in the background may be wrong in someway which I am 100% certain they exist in important positions. Same with Lemmy

Go back to the 60s and you all would be shitting on Fred Hampton for accepting the impure and the color coalition for everyone that had ever said something wrong. Al Franken definitely would not make it with y'all. Y'all can't build up leftist communities because y'all are bitter assholes that can't move on and spend so much time purity testing. Y'all are probably mediocre too so can't make a difference in privacy and data ownership activism anyways so should be lining up to support not just Tuta, someone hasn't screwed up publicly yet, and Proton

Reminds me of Aung San Suu Kyi. She was under the gun of the military ruling class that permitted limited democratic government and because she didn't make speech as if she lived in the US, a bunch of Americans turned on her and celebrated when the military dictatorship came back to rule and put her in prison the moment it seemed like the civilian government would actually assert more power

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (12 children)

It's not a purity test so much as a fear that publicly signaling loyalty to trump devalued their trustworthiness as private and secure. If their CEO legitimately believes that Republicans are better on tech policy than democrats because conservatives want to weaponize the federal government to control speech online, then I don't really trust him not to cooperate with federal authorities when they want to access someone's emails or vpn traffic. Conservatives are simply not trustworthy to me

[–] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl -1 points 6 days ago

They legally can’t though that’s the thing people are missing

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[–] suicidaleggroll@lemm.ee 88 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

If they can charge 30% less without Apple's fees, then why are their prices the same whether you buy on their iOS app or direct on their website? Why have they been overcharging users who don't buy through the iOS app by 30% all this time?

[–] Scipitie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 110 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Old knowledge disclaimer, but if they didn't change it then:

Because Apple literally tells people that they're not allowed to charge less somewhere else - at least that was the case several years ago...

[–] patrick@lemmy.bestiver.se 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Some things do charge different amounts though. YouTube Premium for example is more expensive if you subscribe in iOS but maybe that’s just because it’s Google.

They also could have just not let anyone subscribe through the iOS app. Lots of things do that.

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[–] compostgoblin@slrpnk.net 72 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cool! Still not gonna put all my eggs in the fascist-sympathetic basket

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[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 65 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Up to”…… here’s 5% off

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 30 points 1 week ago

Very true. I'm giving you up to* 1000 upvotes.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 49 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So, Mr. Yen, are you still sympathetic to the republicans, who have a disdain for the same courts that gave you a win?

Or is your head burried so deep in your particle accelerator you don't even have any clue about politics?

Dude thinks he knows everything because he has a PhD in Physics, literally out of touch with the politics that anyone doing 5 minutes of web searching can understand.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 44 points 1 week ago (15 children)

I am sad because of all the people in this thread who think the CEO is "fascist-sympathetic" because he said Trump did something better than the Democrats one time.

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[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

No doubt Proton’s CEO will use this to justify his “Trump is better for regulating big tech” claim, while ignoring that the judge is an Obama appointee.

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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Inb4 Trump invents tariffs on foreign coded software

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