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Everyday AI become more and more common, but can we say no?

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[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago

“No” - tech bros and republicans

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 33 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

these negative comments are missing the point. Soon we may not be able to buy a phone that doesnt have an integrated intrusive ai that scans all you files. Android has one, ios has one. Whats the alternative? using lineage os or some other android rom? having to give up using banks apps and stuff that doesnt work in those roms? most people cant say no to having a phone, so lets ensure these phones arent so intrusive. lets legislate something about this...

[–] scott@lemmy.org 7 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Fwiw I can use my banking apps and anything else on GrapheneOS. It's been smooth sailing all the way.

[–] zeca@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 37 minutes ago)

im glad that it works for you, but my point is that we should have the right to have a non-intrusive phone just as easily as we have intrusive ones. People shouldnt be expected to learn how to unlock a bootloader, or import one of the few phone models that support these alternative roms with all security features in place. In the process of installing these roms, some people might fall into the trap of installing them from a suspicious source.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 2 points 4 hours ago

Same here. I've been using Lineage since it was Cyanogenmod and I've never encountered banking or payment apps not working.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

having to give up using banks apps and stuff that doesnt work in those roms?

btw, my bank recently announced that they'll not let anyone login to the web bank from mobile phones. their justification is to "protect against hackers", which is an obvious lie. this is the most popular bank in my country

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago

Use desktop mode and spoof the user agent with an extension. I'm assuming you're of average intelligence and already use Firefox.

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I live in Denmark, their state identification app does not work if it detects that the Android ROM is not straight from Google. So when I switched to /e/OS I couldn't access anything any more. So yeah, in my case the solution was ta give up on one pretty critical app.

Thankfully the solution was as easy as getting one of those old fashioned code chips, and everything else seems to be working fine (including banking apps from other countries). So now I'm rocking /e/OS and I'm pretty sure there is no way I'm ever going back to Google Android.

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Do Magisk and the universal fix no longer help with masking your OS?

[–] cabbage@piefed.social 6 points 7 hours ago

I think maybe it does, but I'm a pretty normal user who just used the Murena quick installer to get /e/OS. Reading up on Magisk after some web searches I quickly realized it was more than I could bite over without spending too much time trying to figure it all out. If people insist on making apps I can't use I'll just accept that I won't be using them at this point. Their loss.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

We can control AI just fine. We cannot control corporations, who use sloppy AI for important decisions. A few court cases for unfair hiring practices will solve the problem rather quickly, it won't be AI who will get fined, it will be CEO.

[–] SieYaku@chachara.club 7 points 10 hours ago

To be clear, the article is about people who don't wanna use AI and hes chois or not to do it in a personal level. No an impose to those who embrace AI. Is more like if a person can chose to say not to AI, or in words from the article "those who are left behind is widening and becoming a social barrier".