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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Cats are so different. Our current ones bring in so many little critters and let them go in the house, still alive, we had to close the cat door so we can check them before they come in. A past cat used to bring us paper and paper-like items, from food wrappers to people's junk mail, and one time the next door kid's report card. My wife's theory was that that cat thought paper things would please us because she saw us doing a lot of things with paper - we used to do a lot of printing. But I think the cat just didn't really get the whole hunting concept.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 10 hours ago

I'm so proud of my little hunters when we play with toys that simulate prey. They're so fierce. Larry will become fierce. Good job, hunter! Good job, good job!

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 13 points 16 hours ago

Fuck me that is adorable! We'll done, Larry, you are indeed a mighty hunter!

A vegetarian!

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 181 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (63 children)

"Outdoor cats" are an invasive species that kill billions of animals every year, are a significant contributor to dozens of species' extinction, and live shorter lives than cats properly cared for (i.e. kept indoors) including nearly 3x the risk for infections.

It's a plague. We can't keep normalizing this.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

Yeah but birds aren't real.

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 23 points 22 hours ago

Thanks tech, did not appreciate the original post b/c of how lightly it treats the killing of wonderful beautiful birbs

[–] thepreciousboar@lemm.ee 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

"Outdoor cats" are just cats. They are not a domesticated species, hunting is their instinct, and should just not be introduced in places where they wreck havoc to the environment. Where they are endemic (Europe and continental Asia) they don't cause troubles to the ecosystem

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 56 minutes ago

Nah, that's bullshit. They are causing troubles, both to themselves and to the ecosystem. House cats originated in around Egypt area, and were brought by humans everywhere else. They are invasive, and they are destroying ecosystems, and they are in danger every time they're around.

[–] priapus@sh.itjust.works 14 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

As long as you spend time providing your cat proper enrichment to express their hunting instincts, an indoor cat will be just as happy as an outdoor cat.

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[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Wrong. Outdoor cats pose a significant risk to birds in Europe as well, especially because Europe has massively reduced the habitat of wildlife in recent centuries.

Cats found 200-500 meters away from any property are shot by hunters in Germany. Between 2007 and 2022 over 160,000 cats were killed in just 5/16 German states (the remaining one's don't publish numbers).

[–] viking@infosec.pub 11 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Source? Never heard of that. German sources are fine as well.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 13 hours ago
  1. https://www.schwaebische.de/regional/baden-wuerttemberg/tausende-katzen-werden-erschossen-und-das-ist-sogar-erlaubt-news-3137524

That's where the 160,000 deaths number came from. The largest German nature conservation NGO is also quoted as saying cats are a danger to birds.

  1. https://www.nordkurier.de/panorama/schrecklicher-anblick-jaeger-erschiessen-tausende-katzen-3102963

A single district in Northern Germany has had 660 cats shot within a year. In the dstrict's state 2580 cats were shot in total. Note that the "landesweit" doesn't refer to countrywide but rather to statewide (as German states are called "federal countries").

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[–] Hupf@feddit.org 7 points 17 hours ago

Larry Leaffer

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