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[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (105 children)

No one has said they have a working WMD, but that they are very close to one and that they cannot be allowed to have one because it would cause the same kind of stalemate that we have with Russia.

It’s sound logic my guy. Why are people defending the woman hating, gay killing, non democratic regime again?

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Because the current intelligence says they're not close to one. Unless a report came out that I missed?

[–] justlemmyin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Alright grand dad, let's take you to bed.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

it would cause the same kind of stalemate that we have with Russia.

You mean Iran would "stalemate" the theft of land, the genocide of palestinians, etc.?

Yes, empire would hate that. They're gonna have to murder millions of innocent people again like Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Chile, etcetcetcetc....

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[–] imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The whole WMD situation is so shit. Iran cant have a stalemate to prevent attacks on them if they dont have nuclear weapons, so they would be attacked all the time to prevent them from having one. Yet their regime is also the one which is not a friendly to neighbors and has barely any friendly allies therefore it is in the best interests of the rest of the world that they won't get nuclear weapons. And again, preventing them from having it would allow Israel to bomb them freely.

Dunno how others see it, but no matter what side I try to look at this issue at, this is all looks bad and worse than the previous angle. Sad to acknowledge that Iranians have to go through this. Even if regime fails, I bet it'll take many decades for Iranians to become a free of regime state.

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[–] count_dongulus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (13 children)

Iraq, after the Gulf War, was never found by the IAEA to be in possession of or active production of uranium in excess of 20% target enrichment. That's a level consistent with civilian-only use.

The IAEA has repeatedly confirmed Iran has enriched uranium to 60% in increasingly large quantities. Iran has also admitted it, and provides nebulous excuses when pressed about it. There is zero modern civilian purpose for that level of enrichment, and it doesn't take much time to refine from 60% to 85% for high yield weapons grade uranium. Days to months, not years.

Assessments have concluded that Iran does not yet have a functional nuclear weapon, but once they do possess one, now your hands are tied. The only winning move is a pre-emptive strike to prevent nuclear proliferation. Talks are meaningless and not in good faith - Iran sees Israel as a mortal enemy that already has nuclear weapons. Like with North Korea, Iran's nuclear proliferation was used as an indefinite negotiating tool and never intended to be off the table. Iran also does not have a plausible defense purpose for nuclear weapons. If they think the US or Israel would wage war to topple the Iranian state, wouldn't those countries have done it already over the past 50 years? Iran's leadership has, over and over, declared their intent to destroy Israel. They provide weapons and support for proxy groups fighting Israel. Who's to say they wouldn't deliver a nuclear device to a proxy group that sneaks it into Tel Aviv and detonates it, then denies responsibility?

Should have dunked on North Korea before they completed their bomb too, but I guess unlike Iran, their regional partner China wasn't already preoccupied losing another war.

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[–] sommerset@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 month ago

Israel - what's with the face?

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