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[–] Oisteink@feddit.nl 5 points 3 weeks ago (8 children)

This is all fine for city dwellers, but for those of us living rural, 4busses per hrs all day and night would be waste. But a mix perhaps

[–] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I live in a rural town, that has two universities near by, thus a thriving downtown area surrounded by forest and trails. There is some density.

In my pipe dream, they would ban vehicles downtown, and we'd have a trolly that goes from the strip mall (Walmart) down the route, through downtown, and to the end where there are three more strip malls. Make the whole area walkable and bikeable. Have a park and ride at either end.

Them my son could ride his bike to school, I wouldn't need to get in a car to go to the grocery store that is a half mile from my house, instead crossing a 50mph road, it would be walksble, and my kid could go to the park on his own.

There are so many places to go within two miles of my mostly old folk trailer park, but all of it currently is inaccessible without a car or crossing basically highways.

New England is an interesting place, we have high (well maybe more) medium density, and rural areas mixed together everywhere. We could do better.

Highspeed rail would be great. Im 2 hours drive from my states largest city, where tons of cool events happen, and I never ever go, because it's a bitch to drive. There is no direct public transport, so I lose out. Even if the train ran twice a day it would be worth it.

England, the UK, have rural areas with trains. Why can't we?

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess it depends what you call waste. Its providing a service, realistically around here park and ride is pretty popular where people to to edge of the city, park in a carpark with solar cover and ride a bus to town.

traffic still sucks because of other morons who don't use it and drove but it would be worse if everyone drove

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[–] plyth@feddit.org 5 points 3 weeks ago

Crazy proposal: Those billionaire cities, prepare to run one and design it around public transport.

With a million people, each saving $10,000, that would be $10 billion. Start saving and start finding those people now.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I want a better distribution of walkable white collar work and more work-from-home jobs.

I used to live within easy walking distance to the light rail, and work was easy walking distance from the other stop. The stops were 20 miles apart through the center of the city.

I could drive there, around the beltway, around the whole damn west side in 30 minutes.

The train was over an hour on a good day.

I tried it:

Day one, there was some mid day stuff happening in town, the train was PACKED and spent 10m at every stop, that day was 2 hours.

Had a few decent days, then they hit a car. We were forced to stay on the train for an hour in summer heat, no AC.

Some days the train was every 10. Some days every 30, some days 2 in a row. It was supposed to change frequency with time, it changed rather randomly.

By the end of my first month, there was an outage, so they did a bus bridge. That trip home was 4 hours.

I know that the light rail here was just substandard. but that didn't make it any easier.

Trains need a specific ecosystem and population density to thrive. In the US, we seem to have an issue that installing train stops connecting suburbs to significant cities brings crime to the suburbs and pushes out boutique shops from the stops. Is there any of that in other countries, or does the train increase commerce in an area?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

my town has the worst god damn trains, i swear to fuck they're not even trying

Anyway:

trains need a specific ecosystem and population density to thrive

Which is totally not just some unverified just-so story people fucking say because it sounds nice, in spite of all evidence.

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[–] pdqcp@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

It sounds like your city does not prioritize trains at all

train was PACKED and spent 10m at every stop

add more wagons or increase frequency for example

then they hit a car

intersections with car traffic are always a problem and they should be minimized

train was every 10. Some days every 30, some days 2 in a row

i can bet the tracks share the same space with regular roads and signaling does not prioritize public transit, which usually leads to this sort of inconsistent schedule

that didn’t make it any easier

that's usually the excuse used to cut funding to public transit instead of the other way around: "see it doesnt work, why waste money on it". They never mention how it's been underfunded for decades, how cars are always prioritized, and the success cases seen all around the world where it works properly

does the train increase commerce in an area?

stations are usually prime real state for commerce and housing due to all the foot traffic it brings. Just look at stations in Japan, they are basically big shopping malls, without all the unnecessary parking, and high towers all around for housing

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

That’s not boring, that’s convenient.

Things that are convenient don’t necessarily excite you, they delight and comfort you.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I think this image would be improved without the unrelated first sentence about self-driving cars.

I don't like cars, but I would prefer cars be built with seatbelts.

I don't like cars, but I would prefer cars use renewable energy instead of gasoline.

I don't like cars, but I would prefer they be built to sensible safety standards.

I don't like cars, but I would prefer they could drive themselves reliably instead of requiring a fickle and inattentive human pilot.

[–] gurnu@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

Start killing rightwingers and conservatives and we just might see a future with less cars

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

The tram in edinburgh scotland was awesome when I visited.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
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