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[โ€“] randomname@scribe.disroot.org 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Russia will attack the next country. (If this country falls, guess what?)

This, the baltics are probably next if Ukraine falls, it's important that never happens

[โ€“] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Then the rule of force won and the rule of law will be relegated to the dustbins of history until the next age of enlightenment.

[โ€“] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

next age of enlightenment.

I like your optimism, though I don't share it. Human levels of planetary fuckery suggest a dark age that ends with extinction is on the table. Judging by how well humans have corrected our trajectory based on just climate change and fossil fuels, this outcome look more certain by the day.

[โ€“] Shayeta@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

The great filter ended up being more mundane than anyone imagined.

[โ€“] Saleh@feddit.org 2 points 4 days ago

I mean whatever "rule of law" by the West, especially the US always was situational if it served the rule by force. Especially with the support of Israels genocide that point is really hammered home, which i believe will be a huge detriment to the EU countries down the historical line.

I would also not speak of an age of "enlightenment". The supposed "enlightenment" was joined at the hip by genocidal imperialism and subsequently lead to the ultra nationalism that brought on WW1 and reached its peak in the Fascism that brought WW2 and the Holocaust.

What we see here imo. is another case of western arrogance and overt and subtle beliefs of supremacy standing in the way of securing a stable world order that could have been built on rule of law.

The article in the Guardian also refers to this comment on Bidens strategic blunder in regards to Ukraine and its fallout, where the double standard is also discussed. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/26/ukraine-russia-war-nato-biden-putin