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As you may have seen Plex decided it was OK today to send an email showing me what my friends have been watching. To be clear, this is Plex telling other people what I've been watching from my server, with my files, and this is not OK.

https://imgur.com/a/DYR4wlh

We all knew it was a matter of time before Plex started collecting data on our libraries and sharing it with advertisers. What happened to their "we don't know, and don't want to know, what is on your server"?. This, for me, is proof that those fears were absolutely founded in reality. On what planet would I ever want this information to be shared with friends on family on an OPT OUT basis?

It's totally unacceptable to collect this data in the first place. It's totally unacceptable to share this information with uniquely identifiable information. And it's totally unacceptable to do this without explicitly asking me if it's OK.

Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about this as a server admin, because technically these are Plex users and their marketing email preferences are controlled on the user side in the Plex website preferences. Not on your server.

This is an absolutely egregious overreach.

Thank goodness there are alternatives available in the form of Jellyfin and Emby. I left my Plex server up after the Jellyfin January challenge we did on the Self-Hosted podcast but because of this I feel that I have no choice but to take it down for good.

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[โ€“] lmamakos@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Great, another stalker. Glad I bailed out a year or more ago to Jellyfin.

Is plex trying to accelerate their "customer" fleeing their platform? I'm pretty sure that one of the most important financial metrics they report is number of active users, and I'd think they'd be trying real hard to avoid customer churn. Sending out that "we're watching you" creepy vibe seems counterproductive.

[โ€“] Labeled90@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Has jellyfin's UI improved? My wife preferred plex, and plex has a native Samsung app ๐Ÿ˜ฎโ€๐Ÿ’จ

As much as I want to switch, Samsung app store has me stuck currently.

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[โ€“] ThatFireGuy0@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is why I use Kodi. Nothing leaves my home network, and I directly control all data myself

Well, one of the reasons I use Kodi at least

[โ€“] blentdragoons@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

how reliable is the kodi addon for hdhomerun? looks like it's unofficial and not supported.

[โ€“] HyenaFalse3456@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[โ€“] 666AMA@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[โ€“] _chyld@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I use Jellyfin.

Use jellyfin. Problem solved

[โ€“] Penguinexpert1@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I can't recommend Jellyfin enough, it's a perfect replacement for Plex

[โ€“] singulara@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

A self hosted app that isn't self hosted, baffling why people use plex instead of Jellyfin

[โ€“] R_X_R@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I canโ€™t wait to hear your full take on the next podcast episode.

I started looking into Plex AS this all started happening. Fortunately, I havenโ€™t had the time to spend on setting up any media components, but man am I glad I didnโ€™t go this route.

Why does it claim it will auto default to private after 2 years unless you consent again if they are defaulting to friends only from what I can tell.

Makes it seem like they are having to cover a privacy law by claiming it defaults to private but it sure as hell didnโ€™t on my profile.

[โ€“] neumaticc@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

meanwhile me with a 500gb portable SSD of Linux isos and no TOS/tracking to report to :laff:

[โ€“] Tsukiko_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What the Frick I wasn't watching 5KPornHazelMoore200129DoViRemuxFrameSter.mkv

[โ€“] ia42@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I first started looking into an XBMC replacement when my OG Xbox died and I thought there must be some new FOSS replacement to put on some Raspi. Must have been 5 years back? Lots of "experts" sent me to Plex, I took one look at the EULA and said no effing way.

So this is not news to me that they keep and run stats on all my files, watching patterns etc. I have a feeling most users filled up their media servers with torrents and questionably sourced files, not legal rips, and I found no reason to opt into something like that even if my files were all legal. Jellyfin is mature enough at this point for my needs, I know it's not perfect, but it's all local.

[โ€“] Zmezmer@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Iโ€™m glad I switched to Jellyfin a long time ago.

[โ€“] sinofool@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What exactly you plex users paid for? I was always confused. Remote access?

Thatโ€™s the question when I switched from kodi to jellyfin. Thatโ€™s the same question I am asking myself trying to get homeassistent cloud.

[โ€“] HyenaFalse3456@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What's up with companies making shitty defaults nowadays? Who would think this actually brings value for the majority of people hosting their own media content? This another overreach trying to act like Netflix?

[โ€“] identicalBadger@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I just came here to say hi to a fellow badger! :)

[โ€“] holastickboy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The sheer quantity of analytics from both Plex clients and servers, regardless of what options you select, is the number one blocked item on my Adguard Home install. Plex is, by no stretch of the imagination, not at all respectful of privacy.

Plex has sadly lost its way, and this year I finally switched over to Jellyfin and it's much better than the subsequent years I've tried to move across. Other than simplicity of exposing your server on the internet, Plex's value proposition has tanked.

[โ€“] zim1985@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Man I'm even more glad I went with Jellyfin over Plex when I kicked up my media server last year.

[โ€“] I_EAT_THE_RICH@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dude, I have been telling y'all Plex is going down fast. Just set up emby or jellyfin and be happy knowing your setup isn't profiting off of you

It was clearly obvious from the very beginnings of Plex when they forked out of XBMC that they were shady and in it for the cash.

[โ€“] boraam@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Which is a good alternative to consider? Jellyfin or Emby? Might as well switch during black Friday.

[โ€“] mrplate@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Shame, Plex. I expected a better respect for privacy, from a white and orange logo on a black background.

[โ€“] highedutechsup@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

next up... docker containers start reporting user data

[โ€“] MRP_yt@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Not cool Plex, not cool.

[โ€“] HavingEnjoy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Really lame Plex, I thought we were cool.

Found this post on what the setting looks like and I just unchecked the box , so itโ€™s still relevant:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PleX/comments/72zg10/how_to_turn_off_plex_taking_your_data/

[โ€“] csmiler@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I was just about to buy Plex Lifetime on Black Friday, looks like that isnโ€™t going to happen now

[โ€“] aeroverra@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Collecting data on a bunch of people's illegal (in the eyes of the media mafia) libraries. What could possibly go wrong. SMH

[โ€“] lachlan-00@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

You accepted the terms

[โ€“] rudibowie@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

AFAIK they don't circulate emails to your contacts, but smart TV makers routinely overstep the boundaries of acceptability and harvest data that should remain private. On LG TVs, for instance, if you insert a USB, the contents of that USB are read and sent back to HQ to further add to the other data they capture about you e.g. watching patterns, which sources you use, which programmes you watch etc. They cash in by leveraging such data. Low TV prices are effectively subsidised by this model.

[โ€“] tledakis@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

100% agree, when I received the email I got really bad vibes from the whole thing.

I am sure they will come back and say "ah sorry our bad, we will fix this" but once the trust is broken like this, nah I'll go to jellyfin thanks.

I drop Plex years ago when they started doing shifty stuff. If I was sharing content with another person or someone with sharing content with me it it would start getting blocked and turned off. I guess they don't want people to use their software

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