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[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's ok if you can retire with benefits and a pension. Anything else is exploitation

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[–] telllos@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

LoL, everyone realizes, but saddly, I need food to operate.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

When it reliably and effectively supplies things like housing and surplus resources people can get real used to the 9-5.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What else do you suggest people do 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, for 50 odd years?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's absolutely wild that these anti work types actually believe that food just magically spawns in your fridge.

Electricity? Magic lightning from a wall socket! You don't have to pay for anything, you don't have to work, nobody has to do anything productive, everything just magically gets done because we live in heaven and God provides plentiful. Break a bone? You don't need hospitals where humans have to gasp work as a doctor and be all responsible and shit, that just heals with magic!

We don't need anyone to do real jobs, we don't need anyone to be responsible or care, we don't need anyone to even try, because in this awesome world everything is resolved automatically with magic!

Get your collective heads out of your asses

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Wow what a lazy argument with no point.

Have you ever actually thought about how much your existence incurs?

I have.

It would take less than 16hrs of labor per week to make sure everyone has access to all human needs and a reasonable amount of human wants.

The other 24hrs a week I waste at work are just to make sure my employer makes 10,000x what I do for not working.

If you cared about people being lazy you would support redistributing the excess wealth of the lazy rich

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Are you capable of reading? There was a very clear point there.

Then; if your employer makes 10,000 times what you make, find another fucking employer.

That, too, is based on me assuming that your numbers aren't just pulled out of your ass btw. This entire "we can work only 16 hours and humanity will be fine requires a huge Wikipedia style

I'm not talking about abusive companies and bosses. I'm talking about people thinking they don't have to work at all. Wr all have to work, period. Could we work less? Maybe, could be, sure, let's look into that. Could we all flat out stop working? When were all dead we can, sure! Until then though, someone has to put bread on the table, LITERALLY. Without bakers there won't be bread. Without supermarket employees, and farm hands and truck drivers doing their shitty jobs, guess what? Go into the forest and forage your own damn food (and starve in the process).

If you're incapable of understanding that basic point then you should go touch some grass before responding. We live in a real world that has a lot of sucky problems that still need to be resolved and you have no fucking clue as to how good we have it compared to 100 years ago. Hell, I grew up 40 years ago and I know how much better many things are now compared to then, work wise too.

Grow up, all of you

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

There's not a single person who thinks no work is required for society to function, grow up yourself.

If you think antiwork is about never doing any kind of work ever again, you are misunderstanding the movement.

Besides the improvements in medicine and the calorie density of food, people 100 years ago had more free time and propotional money than we do today. They would have lived better lives than us if they didn't die of preventable sickness.

Pretending like any of this has to do with Capitalism is deepthroating capitalist propaganda, human tech has always progressed, even before Capitalism, and it will still happen after Capitalism

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

"Then; if your employer makes 10,000 times what you make, find another fucking employer."

and you say others should grow up, lmao

[–] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

Bro they're a troll. They literally did not make a single point in that entire post, it's just rage bait. No one has made even a single one of the "claims" that theyre attempting to parrot.

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[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Survival is not easy no matter how you slice it. Without modern technology our life spans would be 30-50 years old if that. Today is the much easier to survive than back in the early settler days. People just don’t realize how great we have it compared to our ancestors. I get that some have it harder than others in today’s society. They will never have it as hard as 1600s living conditions.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

No shit, sick of this lunacy. I figure it's mostly kids with shit jobs who have these takes.

I'm sure the guy at the tire shop isn't loving every second of work, but I need tires. I didn't like working in a reprographics shop, but builders need blueprints. Ever bought a used car in America? My last job likely had a hand in getting that car to you.

Yes, we work more than we need to and don't get a fair share of our labor. I get that. There are gross injustices. I get that. But this notion that we shouldn't have to work is immature at best.

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