10 m² of personal living space + 20 m² for every 4 ppl as bathroom / kitchen
2100 kcal/day
1400 kWh/year, but this already includes public services (education/healthcare)
1 washing machine per 20 ppl
2.4 kg clothing / year
wear tops for three days and bottoms for 15 days without washing
1 laptop per 4 people with a yearly power consumption of 62 kWh. (bizzarely they talk about an 800 MHz computer and seem to confuse HDD and RAM). If your gaming computer used 400 W you could use it for 150 hr/year.

[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

wear tops for three days and bottoms for 15 days without washing

It is for the good of all people that this is not the case for me...

[–] CaptainPedantic@lemmy.world 63 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I'm gonna need a lot more than 10 square meters of space if everyone is changing their shirts twice a week. Yuck.

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[–] yimby@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago

The same paper addresses this directly. 86% of human beings live below this standard of living today.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (5 children)

There was 3.7 billion people when I was born. Since I'm still alive we can guess that's within a human lifetime.

Since I was born, 73% of the animals on Earth are gone. Our ecosystems are already crashed, and no one notices.

Remember COVID? When everyone stayed home and quit buying shit, laid low? Remember Venice seeing dolphins in the streets and Asians seeing mountains you couldn't see before? Remember how quiet it was?

SOCIETY can provide, EARTH cannot. Y'all gonna have to die. But hey, between global warming and tanking birth rates fucking our economies in both holes, win, win! The contraction will be of Biblical proportions. I won't live it, my kids will. Good luck kids!

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago

I won't live it, my kids will. Good luck kids!

One of the many reasons I didn't have kids.

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[–] amikulo@slrpnk.net 16 points 3 days ago

I agree that we can support everyone on earth if we change our social, economic, and political systems.

I also think it is good that voluntary population decline is already happening and seems likely to continue in many industrialized nations.

[–] benni@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The design choices of people who make memes out of their political opinions are so random and funny to me sometimes. Like why is one of them a Russian gopnik? Why is the other one a blushing gamer femboy who paints his nails??

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[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 20 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Define 'decent living standards'.

[–] Taalnazi@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago

I think Maslow's pyramid of needs would be a good starter. But let's be more concrete.

House (60 m2, +20 m2 per extra person in household), with electrification, and which can withstand severe weather events (heatwaves, blizzards, heavy rain and wind, etc.).
Clean air and environment without fine dust, microplastics, PFAS, asbestos, etc.
Clean, potable and heatable water available anytime
Healthy and clean food free from animal suffering made available for all
Everyday and affordable clothes available for all
Bodily integrity: only the person themselves can decide over their own body, with the exception of vaccination (because everyone ought to be vaccinated!)
Labour rights, such as automatic unionisation, workplace democracy and self-governance, no vertical hierarchy (so no CEO, overreaching holdings, trusts, etc). And ideally, a wageless gift economy system based on needs. If not that, then this: any company lacking one of the above/being too big, may never get bailed out.
Protection of personal property, with private property becoming communal property instead.
Encouragement of meeting people at sport, hobbies, reading (helps finding friendship)
Bicycle and public transit infrastructure being widely available.
Free and high-quality public education available for all
Same with healthcare. No artificial limit mandating that there be max x amount of doctors or teachers.

[–] Banana@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure they define that in the study if you read it

[–] piranhaconda@mander.xyz 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Well would you look at that, it sure does.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452292924000493

Recent empirical studies have established the minimum set of specific goods and services that are necessary for people to achieve decent-living standards (DLS), including nutritious food, modern housing, healthcare, education, electricity, clean-cooking stoves, sanitation systems, clothing, washing machines, refrigeration, heating/cooling, computers, mobile phones, internet, transit, etc. This basket of goods and services has been developed through an extensive literature (e.g., Rao and Min, 2017, Rao et al., 2019) and is summarized in Table 1, following Millward-Hopkins (2022).

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Why can’t we just have fewer people too? Instead of finding ways to support 50 billion people, how about we have good birth control facilities, education, and economies not based on constant never ending growth? The reality is unending growth WILL end whether people like it or not- wouldn’t it be better to do it on our own terms rather than in a global catastrophe?

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