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A representative for Tesla sent Ars the following statement: "Today's verdict is wrong and only works to set back automotive safety and jeopardize Tesla's and the entire industry's efforts to develop and implement life-saving technology. We plan to appeal given the substantial errors of law and irregularities at trial. Even though this jury found that the driver was overwhelmingly responsible for this tragic accident in 2019, the evidence has always shown that this driver was solely at fault because he was speeding, with his foot on the accelerator—which overrode Autopilot—as he rummaged for his dropped phone without his eyes on the road. To be clear, no car in 2019, and none today, would have prevented this crash. This was never about Autopilot; it was a fiction concocted by plaintiffs’ lawyers blaming the car when the driver—from day one—admitted and accepted responsibility."

So, you admit that the company’s marketing has continued to lie for the past six years?

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Today's verdict is wrong and only works to set back automotive safety and jeopardize Tesla's

Good!

... and the entire industry

Even better!

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Did you read it tho? Tesla is at fault for this guy overriding the safety systems by pushing down on the accelerator and looking for his phone at the same time?

I do not agree with Tesla often. Their marketing is bullshit, their cars are low quality pieces of shit. But I don't think they should be held liable for THIS idiot's driving. They should still be held liable when Autopilot itself fucks up.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

On the face of it, I agree. But 12 jurors who heard the whole story, probably for days or weeks, disagree with that.

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[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The problem is how Musk and Tesla have sold their self driving and full self driving and what ever name they call the next one.

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

"Today’s verdict is wrong"
I think a certain corporation needs to be reminded to have some humility toward the courts
Corporations should not expect the mercy to get away from saying the things a human would

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Seems like jury verdicts don't set a legal precedent in the US but still often considered to have persuasive impact on future cases.

This kinda makes sense but the articles on this don't make it very clear how impactful this actually is - here crossing fingers for Tesla's down fall. I'd imagine launching robo taxis would be even harder now.

It's funny how this legal bottle neck was the first thing AI driving industry research ran into. Then, we kinda collectively forgot that and now it seems like it actually was as important as we thought it would be. Let's say once robo taxis scale up - there would be thousands of these every year just due sheer scale of driving. How could that ever work outside of places like China?

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