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[–] callyral@pawb.social 25 points 3 days ago (9 children)

why not count each person instead to avoid the issue entirely

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, each vote is counted. Gerrymandering affects (federal level in the US) only the House of Representatives, and districts are drawn (ideally) proportional to population. How those lines are drawn are not and cannot be objective; Gerrymandering is when that subjectivity allows for bias.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (7 children)

The objection is that lines are not legitimate. Lines and districts do not represent voters, they represent politicians and that is not democratic.

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[–] riquisimo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (12 children)

It bothers me that the graphic lists red-then-blue but there text lists blue-then-red. It's inconsistent to how we read the information and makes it confusing to process.

...like gerrymandering

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[–] astutemural@midwest.social 20 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Ah yes, because there are only two parties.

This is entirely an emergent property of FPTP voting. Just do PPV or something, smh my head.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Our nation will continue circling the toilet until gerrymandering is outlawed.

And with how many stupids there are here that are scared of change, even when presented with facts proving it's better for them, the odds of things getting better are pretty slim.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 13 points 2 days ago

republicans always use the 4th one, and they make it more convoluted each time to adjust for population growth or loss, im guessing thats why they keep redrawing them, because smaller towns or cities often get so low in population overtime.

[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Gerrymandering is the reason I get upset when people assume all texans/southerners are hateful hicks. Lived there for years and the right/left split is pretty balanced, even leaning left on many big issues, in most of the area I've frequented. It's just that poorer areas are rigged to fail and the powers that be have been running dirty campaigns for longer than many of us have been alive.

Just this last cycle, an old friend in the area received two different mail ads for (iirc) Ted "Zodiac" Cruz. One of them was in english and the other spanish. The english one was, for the most part, "honest" (as much as these types can be called honest, I mean) about his platform, while the spanish one explicitly lied in a way that made him seem like he was trying to benefit the immigrant community. Extremely fucked up and not too uncommon, according to a few inter-generational sources. That plus how jurisdictions are divided has made it extremely difficult for the left to get any major wins for the last handful of decades+. The south is even less ruled by the people than the rest of the US and the many decent people just trying their best to survive out there get shit on for what their oppressors choose all the time.

Sorry for the rant and tbc, there are also tons of shitheads out there too. Its just not like what many outsiders assume it is, and everything about the situation pisses me off something rancid.

[–] workerONE@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Why do votes need to be done by district? Just do it statewide

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The purpose is to have the people of smaller areas represented by an individualized Congress member. So the people in say the backwoods of California, aren't being spoken for by all big city people from LA/San Fran etc. When something is going on in your district, you are supposed to have someone who is empathetic to your cause and familiar to it. Then they bring that to the house and make the argument for you.

Aka, when someone brings up a federal code change proposition that will bankrupt the main source of jobs in your town, your legislature is supposed to go to bat, not fall in line and let your town die. 200 jobs being lost doesn't sound like much to a large city, but in a town of 2,000 people that's game over

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[–] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Hmmm, interesting choice of colors, considering which famously colored party is currently in the news for aggressively gerrymandering...

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[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's also illegal in the united states.

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