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[–] wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Once humans started cooking food and writing stuff down. We progressed rapidly.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actually the biggest factor was most likely the development of language, which probably required certain evolutionary traits in order to be possible. With language, collaboration and cooperation become much easier, which leads to fire and cooking and other ideas like that. You get to writing things down a lot later.

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[–] Unknown_0671@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

me when i arbritrarily define what progress means

[–] JasSmith@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is this the anthropological equivalent of cultural relativism? "Yeah maybe we got to mars but Grog figured out how this berry makes him shit a lot and that's an equivalent accomplishment!"

[–] tequinhu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but I believe that either:

  1. Yes, they are equivalent accomplishments
  2. The environments are so drastically different that even comparing doesn't make any sense

I believe we shouldn't underplay the "over the shoulder of giants" effect, if you are able to engineer a rocket without worrying about starvation/diseases/etc it is because your ancestors have figured all of that out (and it is absolutely not simple to figure things out without someone holding your hand and teaching you)

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Y'all ever wish we were still cave people?

[–] LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

maaaan...

Although, to be fair, without semi-modern medicine, I'd have died 2-3 times as a kid, and without semi-modern surgery, I'd at least be crippled as a result of being a stupid teenager.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Pretty sure you would've only died once.

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[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ehh...not really. I enjoy too many of the things that make life more comfortable. Plus I would have died already. If not by some hunting mishap then when my appendix tried to kill me about 10 years ago.

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Plus floride and iodine anonymously save millions of lives, before we even get to penicillin and germ theory.

[–] Honytawk@feddit.nl 4 points 1 week ago

Absolutely not

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Several million not 200k

And the reason is that the species invented agriculture due to natural climate change (not to be confused with the current man-made climate change if anyone was worried) which allowed for a significantly larger portion of the population to not have to work on making food. Also the industrial revolution was its own similar thing.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

If you count homo habilis and homo erectus, then yes. Homo sapiens are closer to 300K then 200k.
Something interesting occurred genetically around 60-65K years ago with sapiens that kicked cultural development into high gear, so really should start counting from there.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What if our society is built on top of an older more advanced destroyed civilization?

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't know Graham Hancock was on Lemmy.

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Hello there 👋🏽

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[–] tflyghtz@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

190k years of a classless society and modern leaders try to tell us capitalism works better than communism although its crumbling after 200 years

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The secret to having an idyllic, utopian society is to not leave any records so that future people can just make shit up about you.

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[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

The notion of "human progress" is a narrative we tell ourselves that doesn't really apply to reality.

[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Well yea anon, earth has existed for only 6,000 years, when God created the earth. Duh!

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