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[–] dparticiple@sh.itjust.works 221 points 2 days ago (7 children)

None of these are things I want in an OS.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 124 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Yup, I want "unobtrusive, lightweight, compatible, and secure." Basically, the best case for an OS is that I don't notice it.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

And most of all, even more invasive.

[–] veeesix@lemmy.ca 113 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Microsoft really doing everything in their power to make sure I never buy another Windows PC.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I setup a Windows 11 laptop for a friend yesterday, I cannot believe the amount of ads built into the new user experience which are disguised as installation options.

I had to find the tiny, low contrast skip button to avoid signing up for more cloud storage, a Copilot subscription, and an Office365 subscription before I was even able to see the desktop.

The entire left side of the start bar seens to be a news feed which shows ads, opening an Office app requires closing a Copilot ad unless you disable it (individually for every application), it's impossible to create a local user account, it looks like the user folder defaults to their cloud storage so just saving things into your document folder will eventually result in scary "You're almost out of space, buy more here!" ads disguised as system promots, and your bitlocker recovery key is saved in your Microsoft account.

That's just what I noticed in the first 20 minutes.

I'm so glad I ejected from that dumpster fire of an OS.

[–] bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the normies know nothing different and nothing will change. As we get further to to ad hellscape and they find it normal, we will be the only ones screaming that they are insane for having so many ads.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can only save myself.

I have successfully converted a friend to Linux though. I walked him through an Arch install becacause it's easier to teach about the boot process when you're required to manually install everything.

He quickly discovered EndeavourOS, apparently manual Arch installs are not to his taste...

I have a couple friends i want to convert but theyre so impatient and expect everything instant without learning so yeah, not good for linux. I'd guess this describes most humans.

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[–] xep@discuss.online 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Fundamentally, the concept that your computer can actually look at your screen and is context aware is going to become an important modality for us going forward.”

Since I don't feel the need for ambience nor multi-modal experiences in my OS, considering the implementation of that "modality" I'm afraid that even as a long-time Windows user I'm going to have to switch to another OS that closer aligns to my needs.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 days ago (10 children)

The next version of Debian won't be more ambient and pervasive. It would be just the same as it is today.

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[–] prototact@lemmy.zip 40 points 2 days ago

It's funny cause "ambient, pervasive, multi-modal" are all words used when envisioning the future applications of AI, so you know some marketing smuck glanced over the literature (or probably asked an AI to do so for him) and chose them with little care as to how the new Windows will embody these qualities. I am so tired of salesmen,marketing,word salads and entrepreneurship.

[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that sounds exactly like what everybody were looking for in an OS. /s

I've been very happy to be using Linux for the past decade and a half, but never more so than now.

[–] Zen_Shinobi@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago (26 children)

Micro$oft doing this has been the best thing for Linux and MacOS

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago

Microsoft does the best viral marketing for Linux.

[–] Bwaz@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Yup. Off to Linux I go.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago

Thanks, I hate it!

[–] rantpalas@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe someone should inform mr. lead over there that ambient and pervasive do not go together all that great. But then again, windows 11 ‘s components do not seem to play along too well, so they might not be sure what congruence actually is about.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Untrue! Let me give you some examples of things that are both ambient and pervasive!

Slime Molds!
Entropy!
Capitalist violence by the hoarding of wealth and refusal to engage with other humans with empathy!
Your Mom!

[–] wioum@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (4 children)
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Maybe this would be enough for people really start to consider Linux.

[–] letsgo2themall@lemmy.world 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

voice as input? lol, can you imagine a busy office with workers all talking at the same time? this is stupid. MS is stupid. I'll stick to Linux thanks.

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