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    TranscriptFalse meme image that says "bad news ipv4 fans. linus torvalds has announced removing ipv4 support from the linux kernel after the maintainers of the network stack got into a fight over WHAT KIND OF HRT gives the best results. this incident will impact 5 billion people and will make 95% of all network equipment on Earth binnable." with fake screenshots of the linux kernel mailing list a girl calling another one a slur from 4chan over HRT choices and Linus Torvalds saying he will drop IPv4 support and asking the maintainers to learn to shut the fuck up.

    Source: https://rivals.space/@deuxnise/115032302416832519

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    [–] lightnegative@lemmy.world 27 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

    Ipv4 is simpler and therefore easier for my brain to comprehend.

    I deliberately disable IPv6 on all the devices on my home network because it's really f**n annoying when some service tries to bind to localhost but picks up the IPv6 localhost instead of the IPv4 one

    [–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 54 points 21 hours ago (19 children)

    I've encountered way too many administrators and network admins who swear that "IPv6 does nothing but cause trouble" but the truth is, the trouble it's causing is because you can't half-implement IPv6. You either roll it out to the whole network or you don't, and the longer you kick that can down the road the harder it's going to be.

    Basically too many professionals who haven't learned a new technology since 2005 and refuse to try new things keep holding the world back

    [–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    I will happily enable and use it once doing so doesn't break any of my connectivity.

    I'm not managing an enterprise network, it's just my home, but my ISP doesn't support IPv6 so that's one extra layer of complexity right off the hop. On top of that internal services switch which previously required no manual configuration just seem to randomly not work.

    IPv6 is not going to see widespread adoption unless it can be implemented completely transparently for the end user, full stop.

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    [–] disobey2623@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

    I don't even have an ipv6 address, my ISP doesn't provide them yet. Not much to do about it then lol.

    [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu -1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
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    [–] anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz 9 points 18 hours ago

    I think what those admins really mean to say is "We don't need any of the benefits of IPv6, so IPv4 works just fine and making the large scale change is trouble.", when you already got your DHCP, NAT, Firewall and stuff up and things do work as expected then you don't really need NDP or SLAAC.

    [–] irish_link@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

    The issue for me is when I have it enabled and try to connect to a site that doesn't support it fully (same thing / half assed) and the site doesn't work properly. For home its my wife and kids that complain, when its the office then everyone complains. I get the blame for failed connections or things not working right when a fully compliant IPv6 site works just fine.

    Now I am not perfect so It could be me but I have read up and learned as much as possible. No expert but I did deploy DHCPv6 in a test environment. However there is no reason as of yet to deploy DHCPv6 locally since the address space is so wide. Just saying Its possible that the issue is me but from my understanding its like the U.S.A. switching to metric. Parts of us tried it but others didn't and thus we failed as a giant group.

    I think there needs to be a big ass push and force everyone to switch as the same time. I know some of the old devices may not work however those devices have to be 20+ years by now.

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    [–] Johanno@feddit.org 6 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

    In a local network there is no point in using ipv6.

    It is interesting when you run out of ip addresses for the amount of devices you have.

    So in the open Internet.

    Unless I am missing something.

    [–] jj4211@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

    A couple of things that IPv6 does better for local networks is link local addressing (fe80::). and multicasting.

    In IPv4, they kind of hacked something out of 169.254, but if you have more than one NIC, it pretty much becomes useless.

    If you have a service designed explicitly never to be accessed over a router, then you can live in fe80:: a lot more easily than trying to do the same thing with 169.254.

    [–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    Why not? It's as easy as ipv4

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    [–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 27 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Please, at least 85% of that network equipment hasn't been updated in 30 years and they're not about to start now.

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    [–] krunklom@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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    [–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

    Maybe this will move my ISP to provide IPv6.

    [–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 24 points 1 day ago

    Do you want to play a game?

    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 220 points 1 day ago (27 children)
    [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 184 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I'm glad that Linus clarified that it was High Resolution Timers. I was honestly thinking they were arguing about Hormone Replacement Therapy.

    [–] zea_64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Given the demographics of Linux devs, it probably would be the latter.

    [–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I know! It seemed totally plausible! There is a very odd discrepancy between that and the general population.

    [–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 8 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

    Trans people are either writing kernel code or playing hearts of iron 4. Nothing else is allowed.

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    [–] PeachMan@lemmy.world 104 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    THE TOASTER WILL BE REPLACED.

    Fucking legendary quote from Linus.

    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    do you have proof that it's fake though

    [–] Flipper@feddit.org 16 points 18 hours ago

    There is the rule number one of the linux kernel: "We don't break userspace." Linux has refused fixes for buggy behavior in the past because of this rule. This would most certainly break userspace.

    Also the alt text of the original image states this is fake.

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    Take your pills, Alice.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    I think it is more likely that 95% of network equipment supports IPv6

    [–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 56 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    Except whatever brings internet to my apartment apparently

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    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 20 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

    transphobic slur used on 4chan to refer to trans women who do not pass as cis women

    also, injections are the best route of administration for estrogen

    [–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 27 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    also, injections are the best route of administration for estrogen

    people like you are the reason we're losing IPv4 support on linux! (/s of course)

    [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

    at least I'm right 😝

    also you're welcome for ushering in a new era of progress

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    Oof that's way worse than I thought

    [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

    here's the rabbit hole if you'd like to learn more: https://www.brainworms.lgbt/

    Just remember, a lot of trans people have internalized transphobia - that doesn't excuse it, but it's important context that a lot of this is self loathing.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

    I actually just thought it was calling someone extra naive. Like when someone says something naive, and you go "Oh hon..." Or "Oh my sweet summer child..."

    Ironically, that's kind of where I find myself now.

    [–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

    oh honey, my sweet summer child πŸ˜„

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    [–] yetAnotherUser@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
    [–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    This is the first time I've seen a punycode domain name in the wild.

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    [–] wolre@lemmy.world 121 points 1 day ago (8 children)

    Maybe this is the push that finally makes IPv6 go mainstream!

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    [–] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago

    My dream. IPv6 adoption would skyrocket to a degree unimaginable and those who don’t want to, will fall behind unless they move their asses and learn.

    [–] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    As long as IPv2 support remains intact, I'm good.

    /s

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    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 81 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    I need to inflict this reply upon others. It is so gloriously cursed out of context. And in context too.

    VoidZeroOne says: "are you coming for my bathtube full with pregnat horsey pee?"

    [–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 1 day ago (9 children)

    I'm kind of weirdly horny for Torvalds making unilateral decisions about long running controversies? Tell me what standards are best kernel daddy.

    Maybe next he can ban tabs and '\t' from Linux? Everyone indents with spaces now, debate over.

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