Are we pretending this is Marvel thing exclusively and not an ALL superheros thing? Lazy slop memes, aren't going to stop lazy slop movies. Do better.
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I'm trying to remember if Marvel likes the US military. Aren't they always turning out to be secretly controlled by HYDRA or something? I also seem to recall that Iron Man decided he couldn't trust them with weapons and invented his suit so that he could do all of his killing personally.
Early on up until the first Avengers they were, but that movie strained the relationship due to how much the DoD wanted to meddle in the production. They didn't like the helicarriers due to realism, for example. And you can see shit like F-35's on the flight deck, national guard doing their thing during the invasion, Captain America straight up using an M4, things like that.
After that movie, the influence the DoD had was much more subtle if it was there at all.
After that movie, the influence the DoD had was much more subtle if it was there at all.
Their involvement is blatant. They literally have a near century long intimate relationship with Hollywood as a well established recruitment tactic. It's hardly a secret.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93entertainment_complex
https://www.military.com/undertheradar/2018/03/22/how-why-defense-department-works-hollywood.html
That totally explains why i thought about the military after watching dude, wheres my car?
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Not to mention that every single movie has the same plot. But more meta each time
Wait. Wait. Wait. This one has a black guy as the protagonist. How about a woman. What if they are all alians. Or hear me out. All ultra wealthy?
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First scene reveals the Villain
No, that's Columbo.
Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and Deadpool & Wolverine were good. Nothing since then has looked interesting.
Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four were both really good. Actually, I thought Ironheart was really good too.
It really feels like every other movie since Endgame has been really good or really bad.
Ant-Man 3, The Marvels, and Captain America 4 were various degrees of not good.
Echo and Secret Invasion weren't good either (actually, I think overall the shows have had a better track record overall).
I agree. I haven't seen Thunderbolts yet, but I just saw Fantastic Four last night and thought it was actually really good compared to a lot of the other recent Marvel movies. Even the ones I liked all felt like they had the same script more or less, but this one it seemed like they went for less action and easy jokes and just focused on the characters and the story. I liked it a lot.
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I found Deadpool & Wolverene supremely painful. Matter of taste I suppose. Haven't seen any other dress-up movies in a while.
What did you find painful about it? While I dont think it was historic level cinema, I fid find it entertaining.
Not OP but personally the plot was a monumental example of wasted potential with regards to the plot. The villain's motivations being the poorest.
Even then, fight scenes between basically immortal self-healing characters are a snoozefest. Add that to the imo hit-but-mostly-miss humour and you're just waiting for the credits to roll really.
I honestly think I'd rather watch Eternals, and that was pretty bad too.
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There is a significant difference between something being entertaining to watch in the moment, and it being good.
I watched D&W in theaters with my boyfriend. Had a deadpool themed margarita. Had an excellent time, highly recommend.
Hours after leaving the theater, I started actually thinking about the movie. The more I thought about it the more I decided that it actually wasn't very good. At the time, I had a detailed list of complaints. I've forgotten the details since then.
The broad strokes though, it's insulting.
D&W actively disregards and insults established MCU canon. They had a chance to expand the lore, instead they shat on it.
The best moments in the movie could be described as "HEY! HERE'S THAT THING YOU LIKE!!! YOU LIKE THIS RIGHT?!?! LIKE THIS!!!" Which is the most disrespectful kind of reference you can do, as it's insulting to the media and even more so to the audience.
Ryan Renolds has a writing credit for this movie, and he has demonstrated that he fundamentally does not understand the metaphysics of marvel comics. Therefore, his commentary on the state of the MCU can fuck off. Sure, the later MCU movies had a lot of problems, but I can tell that myself, I have the power of media literacy on my side, so I can tell when the pot is calling the kettle black.
If I were willing to actually put effort into it, I could come up with actual examples to go with my complaints, but I don't feel like watching the movie again any time soon.
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I don’t want to watch anything for three hours TBH. 95 minutes is the optimal run time for a film. FITE ME.
I think 2h is optimal. Not too long, but can still fit a proper story with enough time for development.
90 minutes is enough for children/family movies
I was being a bit edgy with 95, it’s basically the minimum. Even in animation, if you have a bit of a complex structure with a plot twist, you end up well over 100.
For example, the Incredibles, with an unorthodox five act structure, clocks in at a very briskly paced 115.
The trouble with superhero movies is that I can just feel myself spacing out during the filler-laden action scenes. Within every 3hr long marvel film is a much better paced 125 minute film just trying to get out.
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I do personally enjoy a long film if it's doing something good with the run time. Oppenheimer was a solid one recently, even with it being so long it was still densely-packed and I don't think it would have been improved by being shortened. That said, I think two hours is roughly my default sweet spot. The further over that you go, the better you're going to have to be to persuade me. I'm ready to be persuaded but it needs to be something
Yeah, my brain has been rotted by short form media too.
This seems like a good time to mention that fucking Casablanca has a running time of 102 minutes. For most of the history of Hollywood 100-120 minute running times have been the norm.
Gigantic runtimes are a feature of depression era economics, the 1930s and now.
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It's high time we reintroduce the intermission... in the third dimension.
I saw Interstellar in a classy New Zealand theater that gave creatively-cooked meals during an intermission. I feel like that would be a well-appreciated change of pace for a lot of people.
Did they just serve 5 types of corn-based foods, y'know, for immersion?
Brutalist having an intermission was so nice and made me realize how much I'd love more movies to have this. Sadly I don't think we'll see this being done more as that little extra time probably cuts into the amount of showings you can do in a day.
Nerds screeching about marvel is the new /r/athiesm