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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

I love many Star Trek movies, but the big screen is not important to the franchise, and it's best work has always been on the small screen.

DS9 movie. I know some important people are gone but still. DS9 movie

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's worth noting that the last time I heard Ben Stiller talking Trek - five years ago on the official podcast - he made it pretty clear that he was a TOS fan, and hadn't really seen anything else.

Nothing wrong with that at all, but relevant IMO.

Also, he definitely doesn't actually have a pitch.

...they asked him “Do you have any Star Trek pitches?” He promptly replied, “Yeah, let’s do it.”

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 2 points 2 days ago

He only wants something TOS related (since he only watches TOS). But that won’t happen.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Christ... TOS is the worst of them for like the first 6 shows or something. Uncultured swine.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What's wrong with it? It's very much a product of its time, but it's still serviceable.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 0 points 2 days ago

Just the acting, the writing, and the effects mostly. Otherwise, not so bad.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Hear me out, it's called The Orville and... oh, no wait. I'm being handed a message.

[–] antithetical@lemmy.deedium.nl 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry if that was a joke that went over my head, but I really don't get the love for The Orville.

The first season was kinda good in a temporary sci-fi wasteland. But the later seasons were mostly cringey teenage angst forced drama with some of the most unsymphatetic characters (e.g. the doctor lady and sons). Attempting to reach Capt. Picard levels of depth in their arguments and sophistication but falling short by a landslide.

The one good moment I can remember about it is the joke about the character being off-center on the viewscreen. Heck, I even prefer Discovery over most of it.

The Orville isn't Trek. It's Seth MacFarlane comedy with some respectable drama. When he handed the USB drive with Billy Joel on it to his alien fascist girlfriend I teared up. Love is love, man.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

The Orville isn't "big screen." What we need is a sequel to Galaxy Quest.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 12 points 2 days ago

the note says "please dont be that guy on the internet"

[–] rafoix@lemmy.zip 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Star Trek tends to suck on the big screen because instead of relatable sci-fi we get action scenes and explosions. It’s not the same.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 13 hours ago

Are we watching the same movies because the criticisms I usually hear leveled at the TOS films are that they are too philosophical and boring

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I still want the Quentin Tarantino Star Trek movie.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 5 points 2 days ago

There are dozens of us!

[–] hash@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

Can you FUCKING IMAGINE? Can you FUCKING IMAGINE, MOTHERFUCKER?

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If you could make a movie that stays true to the idea of Star Trek while still maintaining broad enough appeal to reach a wider audience, sure.

I believe, to this day, that still has yet to be done. Without the broad appeal it's better to just do the show, and without the ideals of Star Trek... it's just another generic sci-fi action movie.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago

I mean, at this point I'm willing to give Ben Stiller the benefit of the doubt on all sorts of things.

I don't think he needs the benefit of the doubt on "reach a broad audience" in the first place, because... well, it's Ben Stiller. I mean on the Star Trek ideals thing.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They will do just wrath of khan again and call it innovative

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 days ago

IDK, Ben Stiller made Severance, which is pretty thoughtful, philosophical sci-fi. He's got the chops and the interest in making something, the idea leaves me cautiously optimistic.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hasn't basically every star trek movie been kinda bad?

iMO the IP does better when it has time to go slow.

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well this is a take I can't believe is being upvoted....

To answer your question, no every movie has been good. I'm sure if they made a Section 31 movie it would be good too but they never actually made it so we'll never know.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I haven't seen every Star Trek movie but the ones I've seen have been pretty bad.

I'm here for the philosophy and the diplomacy, the movies always feel like they are made for a different audience.

[–] jerakor@startrek.website 1 points 1 day ago

Movie Star Trek is different from TV Star Trek. Except for Insurrection which is just a 2 part episode in a movie trench coat. And probably Section 31 but I don't plan to watch that and find out.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The 2009 film was really fucking good IMO. It's what got me interested in the series to begin with.

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

To each their own haha. The 2009 movie was the first ST movie I ever saw and I was not a fan.

FWIW, I mostly enjoy TOS, TNG and DS9. Not a star wars fan at all. To me the movie felt too much like star wars. It wasn't dry enough and didn't feel anything like a televised stage play lmao.

[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well I was a huge Star Wars fan at the time (stopped caring after Disney ruined the franchise with excessive content bloat), so that might explain it haha

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He should just go to the Orville new season or an Orville movie, Star Trek is kinda beyond the point where it can go back to what it was

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe his idea isn’t any good though.

i hope that it's star trek but it's literally just his character from extras.