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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 63 points 1 day ago (6 children)

People who unironically belive that you can create real change by "voting harder" are the same people who think you can climb the economic ladder by "pulling yourself by the bootstrings"

[–] Neverclear@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

If voting could change things, it would be illegal.

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[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The guy is still running and the people can still vote for him. I'm not even sure that this endorsement is that necessary for this position:

The party hadn’t endorsed a mayoral candidate in 16 years prior to backing Fateh.

Whatever the feelings about the DFL and how they handled it, the power of the vote would seem to be intact. It's a bit premature to be fatalistic about voting in this particular scenario.

The Democrats who are refusing to respect "blue no matter who" as they support Cuomo anyway is worthy of criticism, but even then he is still the official candidate and the people can vote. The Cuomo supporters are acting poorly, but again, the vote at least still matters.

Raise awareness as well about these moves, but don't be dismissive of the voting.

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 20 hours ago

You make some good points, but you can believe that voting isn't really going to change much but also practice harm reduction by voting. The two positions aren't mutually exclusive.

I don't believe for a second the ruling class would allow real change to happen through voting, but going into a voting booth once every couple of years is not that difficult and might keep actual fascists out of office.

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[–] ALLHAILHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.ml 45 points 1 day ago (6 children)

We need a true leftist workers party so bad in America. Democrats are center right.

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[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 58 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

The Democratic Party is a honey pot trap used to attract and neutralize progressive and leftist politicians and policies and ensure that the “Overton Window” of American politics never moves left. They will let you “talk” about universal healthcare, for example, but they will never, EVER allow it to move forward as a serious legislative agenda.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago (27 children)

Never forget that Obama had two whole years of a significant Democratic majority in both Congress AND Senate, and still somehow couldn't muster the cojones to pass anything even close to the socialised healthcare he'd campaigned on and had a huge popular mandate for.

Someone please explain why it is that when Republicans are the minority they have the ability to block absolutely everything the ruling party attempts, and yet when the Democrats are in opposition suddenly somehow it's impossible for them to do anything?

[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

They simply don't want to.
Once it can happen, when it's a pattern happening their entire history it should be obvious.
The game is R: 5 steps right, D: 1 step left. But apparently americans can't see it.
Totally their own fault.
it's a running joke, especially now.
The game format inevitably results in a far-right stage eventually.
And yet they cry crocodile tears and are confused how they ended up there.

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