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[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Copyright is only here because of capitalism, omce we get rid of this toxic system, copyright is simply bot required to better humanity

[–] fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I know this is irrelevant, but what system do you prefer. Not asking in bad faith, I agree, just curious what your alternative is because I don't know what mine would be.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

An alternative i want is star trek style beyond scarsity system where people tend to do what they want. if it actually works in relatity is another question but i would like to try that

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[–] l_b_i@pawb.social 4 points 17 hours ago

(From a US perspective) It would be good. As an analog, take a look at patents, the surge in 3d printer tech is because the patents expired. The idea is a "limited exclusivity", the permanent nature it has become is stagnating, and only there to benefit the corporate rather than personal nature that the system was designed for.

[–] Steve@communick.news 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (6 children)

Anything to shorten it sounds good to me.

My idea has been that copyright shouldn't be automatic. It needs to be registered, and renewed every 2 to 5 years. And each renewal costs twice what the last one did. Start off super cheep maybe even free. Then $5 for the first renewal, doubling each time. Eventually it becomes too expensive to bother; Even for billion dollar franchises.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Anything to shorten it sounds good to me.

So say we all.

In the U.S., a few years ago, GOP Senator Josh Hawley, one of the speakers who helped incite the January 6th insurrection, introduced a bill to make the term of Copyright 28 years with optionally one renewal for an additional 28 years.

And, it's so weird to me that I could agree with him on anything really.

Mind you, he introduced that bill in an effort to punish Disney for being too "woke". And the bill didn't go anywhere. But I'd let the MAGA nuts use such a bill as an opportunity to crow for a few minutes about their victory over strong woman protagonists or whatever if it got us more reasonable copyright terms. (And honestly that's too long, but it's a hell of a lot better than the bullshit we have now.)

Also, fuck Sonny Bono.

[–] vsg@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Steamboat Willie was released almost a hundred years ago but only got into public domain last year. 95 years of copyright is overkill.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

10 years plus an option for a 10 year extension is plenty.

Copyright should only apply to other individuals and companies trying to collect income (not just profit, making any money) from copying as well. The whole original idea about protecting the creator from being easily copied was a decent idea, and really only makes sense as useful to society in that context.

And yes, I am in favor of every work of art being in the public domain within two decades. That is plenty of time to benefit from exclusivity, they can create additional art or do some kind of promotional work or something else to keep making money off the fact that they created something that deserved to be exclusive.

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Those fees won't pay for the cost of registering all these copyrights. Currently the government doesn't need to get involved until there's a suit, and then they get court fees. Everybody registering their first 2 to 5 years of copyright would be a massive burden.

Also, at every 5 years you're only up to a few hundred bucks at 40 years. Definitely needs to be on the lower side.

[–] Steve@communick.news 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Registering doesn't need to cost much. It could be largely automated.
And the government will get plenty of money later on from the big ticket copyrights.
And the government isn't supposed to be profitable in itself any way. So that doesn't matter much.

And yah, personally I'd root for for a year or two. But to get this system in place, that would likely have to be compromised on. 5 years is the long edge of worth doing at all.

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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Without doing much research on the topic I'd say time limit it to x years after publication.

[–] Impromptu2599@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Copywriting is typically fine for a company though I thought

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Copyright, even if signed away to a company, is still timed off the original creator's lifespan.

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

Not in the U.S.. For work-for-hire, It's 95 years after publication. For works owned originally by a lump of flesh, blood, and bone, it's 70 years after the author's death.

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world -3 points 17 hours ago

Bad idea unless it gets forced under public domain with no derivative patents possible

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