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[-] donuts@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

You're not gonna sell shit with jacked up sky high prices, even more so in a time of high interest rates. We see your lots are full of unsold cars, both ICE and EV, so maybe it's time to bring prices back down to Earth.

We really ought to change the laws to allow for direct-to-consumer car sales. Dealerships are scummy motherfuckers who are perfectly happy to be a middleman and rip people off.

[-] alienanimals@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

Car dealers are useless middlemen that should be put out of business.

[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

despite our economic prosperity

Fuck you. I could barely afford a Honda Fit.

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[-] ME5SENGER_24@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Sell EV’s under $30k and you’ll sellout!

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

The Bolt? Sorry, they are getting rid of that for a few years. Hell, it took a lot for them to even agree to bring the damn thing back. They were going to kill it despite its popularity.

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[-] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

I want an EV but the only affordable option is Chevy and somewhat the Nissan Leaf. Every other option is way to expensive. If my current car died, I guess I would buy one of them. But I'm going to drive it into ground or until sometime else affordable comes along.

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[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago

Give me an EV without a massive center console that blinds me at night. Remove all the "smart" features like lane assist. Give me a fucking dumb EV

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

It may also have something to do with all the announcements about changing the charging port. I wouldn’t buy a car when I know they’re changing g that next year. I mean, it’s about time, but that’s going to deter buyers

[-] ohitsbreadley@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

I look forward to buying an EV with a usb-c charging port.

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[-] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago

You can't sell EV's because:

1: too expensive to buy new 2: if you live anywhere that's not a big city, or you have a garage, there is basically no electric chargers for you.

The city I live in (~30k people) has 6 chargers total. None of them are superchargers. Wait times are already a sticking point in the best case, nevermind what the wait times would be if everyone where I'm at had an electric car tomorrow. The whole downtown would maybe gridlock just because of people waiting.

For comparison, there are probably 2-300 gas pumps around the city. 5 gas stations within 5 minutes of where I am, all with at least 8 pumps, all well used. People are not going to get EV's unless there is an infrastructure that is equivalent to gas around where they live.

And that infrastructure is not gonna be fun to get going.

The average person living in the city can't really use them with street parking, can't always guarantee a spot after all, and installing a personal one for yourself all but requires a personal garage, which locks out the people who live in poorer housing.

Lots of people in my city and I suspect many others live in trailer parks with low/fixed incomes, having just a simple driveway. Where are they gonna get the thousand or two to install a Level 2 charging station? My mom and dad certainly don't have the money.

Expecting the EV companies to make the infrastructure with the money they get just from selling EV's is gonna turn into one gigantic chicken-and-egg problem. The government is going to have to do it, and anyone who's not living along an interstate can see just how much benefit they are personally getting from it so far.... (hint: none)

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[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

When I bought my Volt 10 years ago, I knew more about the car than any of the dealer sales people. I doubt the situation has changed much. That being said, I would hesitate to recommend an EV to a non technically inclined person, because the charging situation is still rough even in CA. Stations are often broken, or the billing doesn't work, or they are in inconvenient areas. Gas is still the idiot proof option. We will know we're really in the future when you can go to most grocery stores or strip mall and charge with tap to pay (no stupid app to pre-configure). There has to be 95% reliability. Right now I'd say about 1/5 of stations I visit have something wrong with them in terms of no internet connection for billing, slow charging, illegible UV-damaged screen, or just outright broken hardware. https://heatmap.news/electric-vehicles/nema-14-50-mobile-charger-lucid-air

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[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

car dealers literally don't need to exist and make the buying experience worse for everyone

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Translation: Car dealers don't make as much money from EV's.

Car sales is a racket anyway, the dealers make too much money, the car manufacturers make too much money, and with the prospect of a new technology that costs more they've realised that they can't charge as much more, meaning they profit less.

Price is not proportional to cost.

The biggest crime is the villainisation of haggling. Price must be negotiable for a system to remain fair.

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[-] ky56@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I refuse to buy a DRM infested iPhone / un-rootable Android on wheels with data hoarding spyware and no access to service manuals, parts or service tools. Also decent build quality without excessive and inappropriate use of plastic.

My car is a not a 10 year disposable item. ~< 2008 era cars for me.

I'd argue that cars becoming part of the disposable economy is even worse for the eNViRoMeNt.

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