I had matching Nexus 5 and Nexus 7, I was in modding heaven. God I miss my Nexus 7...
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I’ll break my sons phone the day that he comes phone with a data harvested machine.
i cant wait for mobile Linux to be ready, I will switch in a heartbeat.
Wasn't Ubuntu phone a thing?
Ubuntu touch is a thing, But the only platform it's running properly on is halium, which is basically an Android core and bootloader that virtualizes the OS.
It works, and it has pretty good battery life, but it's not really Linux on the phone, they're using Android drivers under the hood.
The real Linux distributions that exist that are running on metal don't have all the drivers worked out yet for modem and VOLTE, But those are close, i'm not worried about that, But I am worried about is the average of 6 hours of battery life on a 3500 mah battery. Android has battery life down to a science. Those apps just become snapshots and disappear into the background and restore like nothing happened when you need them again.
I started diving into this one Android started showing their ass a couple of months ago. If you want to use hallium, You might be able to daily drive it if you don't have high expectations, The guy I was following that tested it out so that helium / touch was so lockdown that he couldn't even install unsanctioned apps from the terminal because the VM would brick itself.
I can deal with not running most phone apps, But I really don't feel like moving from one lockdown OS to another just for the hell of it. If Google pulls this s*** I will get out at the first available stop.
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Pinephone exists now, you can buy it today. It runs Linux.
Calls/SMS do work although are not 100% so if you absolutely need these to be reliable you could get a brick phone for like £15 to cover that and then use the Pinephone as a pocket computer. I used it as my only phone for a couple of years and it was mostly fine, now it doesn't have a SIM in it and its perfect as a pocket PC.
Pinephone battery usage (with postmarketOS) is atrocious. I bought one and it's been collecting dust in a drawer ever since the first 3-4 times the battery drained from 100 to 0 within 24 hours on stand-by. :( My fastest wasted 700ish EUR ever.
How so much? Mine was about £200 after delivery and import taxes. Still my most expensive phone but the best computer I have ever put in my pocket.
Shame that calls/SMS are not perfect, but I have since for a dumb phone for that so the SIM sits in that instead.
it's been 3 years or so but I may have bought a pinephone pro because the simple one was out of stock? Plus convergence package, plus shipping, plus outrageous money transfer fees - German banks are basically thieves when it comes to international transfers outside the EU.
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Follow pine64 news, they stopped producing new pinephones since they arent in demand enough
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Don't forget rock solid app gets an unexpected update 3 years later and now is jammed with ads and offers an ad free subscription at $14/week
Yeah app purchases sure went to shit, didn't they? Sorry turns out buying an app one time for a small fee isn't good enough, we need you to buy it again every month.
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I remember this "don't be evil" slogan. But what was it from?
I just hate that so much. The openness was one of the two reasons why I got an android phone. The other one being the price.
I'm probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don't seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I've heard) pretty decently: https://furilabs.com/
Biggest drawback is it's based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn't worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.
Collection of different experiences I've variously seen online over the last year or so:
- https://clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2025/07-20-flx1-actually-usable-linux-phone.gmi
- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41839326
- https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1fa1ljn/furilabs_flx1/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1j46f2w/flx1_linux_phone_display_out/
- https://www.theregister.com/2025/02/03/furiphone_flx1/
I don't own one, myself, so I can't give any personal experience but I've seen it around for a few years now but most people don't seem to even know about it. Maybe there's a reason for that? But none I've ever seen anyone say.
What is halium and why is it a drawback ?
https://halium.org/ (not me insinuating you should've just searched for it; I just like to be thorough and give all possible information, even if unneeded)
The very simplified explanation (as far as I understand things) is that it uses an Android kernel to run Linux on so that hardware issues are minimized (the biggest difficulty that Purism and the Pinephones have had and why they've been harangued in terms of what they can do is they're trying to provide open hardware that can work with the pure Linux kernel).
So the plus side is that things work with Android hardware – because you're, ultimately, using the Android kernel – and you can (theoretically) open up the number of devices you can run on exceedingly.
Downside is (I believe) you get Google/Android closed bits running and you're tied to the development of whomever made that modified kernel. All the complaints about not getting kernel upgrades after a while (because you're using a modified kernel, you can't just pull the latest and greatest from upstream and use it) that people have with Android will still apply.
Given the moves Google's making, it's not a deal breaker, for me, but I know it can be for some people so just wanted to give people the heads up.
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I am very happy on GrapheneOS. Even in terms of flashing it was much nicer experience than what you had to go through back in the days