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gtk3, gtk4 (probably?) qt, qt in flatpak, gtk3 in flatpak, gtk4 in flatpak (probably)... I'm just not fighting it anymore

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[–] magitian@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago

adw-gtk3 contributes a small bit to the consistency of window decorations

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I honestly don't mind such a fragmentation if at a functional level all window decorations behave the same. Otherwise it's mental

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Does anyone know if KDE is any better with this?

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I find KDE works well with GTK3 and below, but GTK4 apps are set to ignore themes, which is a design decision on the GTK4 side. They invariably look completely odd and out of place as they often force the entire Gnome app UI as well as an unalterable theme.

And then Flatpaks also don't generally follow system themes as they're so sandboxed (although there are some work around, including making them consistent or allowing them access to the system theme folders).

But anecdotally I've not had the level of title bar variability on KDE as that screenshot. Although admittedly I do tend to actively avoid Gnome apps as I don't like the design philosophy.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

A little? You can theme Gtk apps to match, but it's not pixel perfect even with the stock theme.

Its always slightly off on padding and margins, but the overall outcome looks more uniform

[–] bunitor@lemmy.eco.br 8 points 2 days ago

yes because kde supports client-side decorations and server-side decorations. gnome only supports client-side decorations

[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I find KDE looks nicer but it always runs like shit on my machine. Skill issue probably

[–] whimsy@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

This is the first time I'm hearing something like this. People usually complain about exactly opposite of it!

[–] DoctorPress@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

We should question gtk maintainers motivation for dropping custom app border support in gtk4

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is oke of my true painpoints with linux too. However its tempting to get Hyprland working properly as that removes all windown titlebars (Hyprland is designed to be keyboard first). So at least visually that is a lot more appealing since you no longer will notice this.

[–] nfms@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I removed all the window titlebars on KDE and I'm happy

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nice, how did you go about removing them? And do you also close them with keyboard shortcuts? Would like to try this on KDE too!

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[–] DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For some reason the Rust GUI toolkits don't use WM's window header.

[–] jxk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

So... Add one more window decoration style to the list

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (11 children)

This is the kind of shit that stops people from migrating to Linux.

Lack of consistency in the UI. We’re in 2025 dammit. Not 1995.

Edit: okay, WTF Windows is now even worse?!?

[–] communism@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago

How is a kernel meant to enforce anything about UI?

I think GUI development should favour server-side decorations for consistency's sake, but this is more of a cultural thing with what application developers are choosing to do, rather than anything "Linux" can do about.

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