The dutch are laughing with their bikes with the massive storage box thing

Walking to my grocery store and back would be an all day affair and I'd have to have help hauling everything because I'm married with two kids, so our two week grocery bill runs between $200 and $300 depending on what all we need. My closest Walmart is 25 miles away. My closest local grocery store is about 7. And there is no public transportation here.

I hate cars and love walkable cities as much as the next guy in this community, but this comparison is just nonsense.

If the only thing you do and are comparing is 4 trips a month to the grocery store that is in walkable distance you are not spending $200 a month on gas and probably also less on maintenance and stuff. And if you are only doing that you also don't need the newest and best car.

I feel like this type of bad faith analogies just hurts the message.

I lived next to a little natural grocery for a few years. Prices were about 20% higher than the ordinary grocery and maybe double what I'd pay at Costco. At first I was resistant because they seemed to be overcharging so much. Overtime I talked to the employees and realized the savings I made on time and not needing a car more than made up for the higher price. Plus they had to keep prices high because shoplifting was very common.

I started figuring my time and car expenses into future shopping trips and now I don't mind paying a bit more for the local co-op.

Here on Copenhagen:

• Buy a bicycle for 4000 dkk.
• Bike less than 1 km to arrive at Netto/Rema 1000/lidl/Coop 365.
• Buy a kanelsnegle for 8 dkk.

Let green text guy live his own definition of an ideal life, but it would be a pretty pathetic life for me if the only place I ever had to go was the grocery store.

Buy a 5000 lbs truck to haul less groceries than cyclists do on bikes.

You don't go to Costco to save money, you go so you have an excuse to buy a box of instant ramen.