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Sorry if this isn't up to quality for posting on this comm. I wasn't sure where else it would fit.

Edit: here is the transcription for accessibility or for people whose country is blocking catbox.moe

Oh what radicalized you? I'll fucking tell you what radicalized me. When I was in eighth grade my dad came home from a miserable terrible grueling day at work and said 'Hey put your shoes on we have to go to the school board meeting"

Now I'd never been to a school board meeting, didn't really even know what they were for but what I did know was that my school had just implemented a policy that anyone could get a free lunch at school regardless of their financial status. Rich kid gets a free lunch. Poor kid gets a free lunch, paid for by the taxpayer.

Now eighth grade me thought that was a really fucking good deal. I still think that and I thought then that anybody with a rational fucking brain cell would think the same. But we got to that school board meeting and I watched as the same people I saw at Sunday church every Sunday stood up in front of the board and talked about how this was a terrible thing and that they were all shelling out for people that didn't need a free lunch.

And then I watched as my Dad, the strongest hardest working man I've ever known my life; I mean he could bend a horseshoe in half with his bare fucking hands. My dad stood up and he said "Hey I know exactly what it feels like to be the kid that needs the free lunch. I grew up on free lunch. And I also know what it feels like to feel the stigma behind that in your classmates."

He said, "If you have a problem paying for these free lunches then you can bill me." And then he looked at the school board and said, "Thank you for your time" and then we left.

Now eighth grade me thought well maybe it's just a problem in my slack jawed yokel of a hometown. But the more I've grown up the more I've seen that this is not just a problem in 2,000 people towns. It's a problem nationwide and that the same people that are having these problems are the same that are at church every fucking Sunday. That's what radicalized me.

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[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

From a very young age I knew any of these church people weren't to be trusted with anyone's best interest, the only best interest they had in mind is what some charlatan told them that the invisible man needed them to do this or that horrifying thing to be able to live forever in a utopian made up land. Disastrously gullible and horrifyingly dangerous in the right hands.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It's a good instinct. I've seen churches that act as pillars of the community and rally places for social progress but they've been co-opted. Supply side Jesus is pretty universal now.

If you can find a church now that is lite on the grift and proactive in community support, there are calls within leftism to return to those places and try to rebuild ties with the boomers who are controlling the vote.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 17 hours ago

I'm painting in broad strokes, guilty until proven innocent kinda thing, there's good and bad everywhere, but with religion they have to prove themselves, I won't give them benefit of the doubt

[–] Una@piefed.europe.pub 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

These people usually use "Other people are not entitled to my work." argument, or something like that goes. Which to some extent they are right, but living inside society, or community and what is a country but big community of humans, and living inside that community you are expected or should be expected to give basic respect and should help other people afford basic needs also other people should help you afford basic needs to live. Basically mutual help when living in a community, I could have worded it better but I hope people are understanding this.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

That attitude of theirs is just flat-out stupid. What they fail to understand is that not spending their money isn't actually a fucking choice. what they're actually deciding between is spending a little money now to help kids succeed, or a fuck-ton more money later -- both directly as taxes and indirectly as worse economy in general -- for the consequences of failure. Housing and feeding prisoners is way more expensive than just feeding students.

Even "basic respect" is beside the point; opposing school lunches just makes you a shortsighted moron.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 9 points 16 hours ago

Exactly, no you worded that well. My family fell for the trap in thinking that we all look out for ourselves and that nobody has helped us along the way. This is a huge aspect of the older conservative grift.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 5 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

The link is dead. Could anyone provide the original, a repost, or a transcription?

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 9 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Sorry, this keeps happening. It's on catbox.moe which a lot of countries block. Set your VPN to Mexico or somewhere that doesn't block it.

Basically just a ruggedly photogenic white boy explaining the communal support system but through the vernacular of strength politics that is effective on young Gen Z boys. It's long so I didn't transcribe it yet but I'll start working that into my posts for accessibility.

[–] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago

Thanks VPN worked for me