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Wow, Devils Due is like the second episode I watched (first was Silicon Avatar) and I remember enjoying the ending where Picard mimics all her tricks before telling her to fuck off.

In hindsight easily a notgreat episode, but I remember it fondly.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Start with Wrath of Kahn.

Sure. It's a sequel to a Franchise: The Movie. It is also a direct sequel to a random episode of the show. It is a self-contained story; I don't think it bothers to mention the events of The Motion Picture, it does a good job establishing the antagonist because this movie came out in 1982, it's entirely possible that even a Trek fan in the audience missed that one episode of a 20 year old TV show so there's a whole sequence where Kahn puts Chekov on his knees and recites "I am the very model of a vengeful space antagonist, I blame the death of my wife on the deeds of the protagonist. I quote from Melville's Moby Dick completely unironically. I grapple thee, I stab at thee, I spit to my last breath at thee."

Beyond beating the audience over the head with its literary references (to the point of showing a copy of Moby Dick and Tale of Two Cities on screen YOU FUCKING HACKS) it does a reasonable job of world building, and the rest of the franchise refers back to this movie a lot...to the point of remaking it twice.

It's a self contained plot that comes to an end...even though it has two direct sequels. Search for Spock is where we get fully formed modern Klingons complete with their language, and The Voyage Home is weird, but also kind of cool, and probably the most Star Trek of the TOS era movies...I also believe Voyage Home has the best soundtrack of a Trek film.

[–] MalikMuaddibSoong@startrek.website 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah great suggestion, Wrath of Khan is an excellent entry point.

The enterprise being an underdog the entire time is a great showcase for the best of trek: the crew and the problem solving 👌

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

fun fact: Undiscovered Country features the only instance of Kirk's Enterprise arriving to a battle in fighting trim amd ready for combat.

...And still gets its ass handed to it because they show up and are like "Well now what?" Because the Klingons are perfectly invisible.

Look I fell into the doctor who crowd years ago and it has been.... A ride. I always figured I'd get into trek when Ive got nothing left to lose

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

i am a very late bloomer to ST. i watches TOS and loved it; i startrd up TNG about a month ago.

im in season 3 episode 4 and councillor troy hasnt died yet. i hate her with a fiery passion for ruining what seems to be a really good show. my friends have confirmed she doesnt die and told me to leave TNG behind and move on to DS9.

i guess i get DS9 tomorrow.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Her character does get a bit better in later seasons. She even starts wearing a real uniform.

[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I’m going to be the serpent in the grass and say give Babylon 5 a go before DS9. The first season will feel slow because the show is structured like a novel; exposition, rising action, climax, falling action, conclusion. There are small things like newspaper headers that hint towards future developments, and every main character undergoes a major arc. I enjoy DS9, but it’s never felt as cohesive as B5 to me. You may throw your stones now.

B5 definitely best star trek. Ds9 or lower decks a close second.

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (3 children)

It’s such a weird choice to put “ships councilor” on the bridge.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 4 days ago

All the high-maintenance staff are on the bridge.

[–] radix@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Someone had to protect Wesley from Picard.

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

i can imagine the unimportant meetings that werent part of the show... you know like routine runs.

"i am captain jean luc picard of the USS Enterprise. to my right is my number one, commander riker. to my front left is my number two, lieutenant commander data... as opposed to this random lady sitting next to me who has nothing to do with leadership on the bridge."

[everyone glares at troy]

[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 days ago

My recommendation is to start with the second movie and make your way to first contact.

Then switch to voyager. If you reach the middle of it, there is no stopping you anymore.

Alternatively, you can switch to deep space 9 after the movies.

[–] irish_link@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (5 children)

This is incorrect.

If you are new at this point “Lower decks” is the right place to start.

After that you can go to any series, even if TNG is the right next step. You can pick anything.

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I guess I stumbled upon Star Trek on TV here and there, but I really started caring after watching the JJ Abram's trilogy. There is probably no worse point to enter, but I swear it has its moments

[–] Kirk@startrek.website 2 points 4 days ago

Those movies are so forgettable to me, but I do frequently hear that they were a gateway drug for many people so they're ok with me!

[–] oftheair@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

The most wrong is Star Trek: Straight New Worlds.

[–] HatchetHaro@pawb.social 3 points 4 days ago

no, the correct answer is star trek online, klingon empire gorn science captain.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you're going to do a "courtroom" TNG episode, no way it's Devils Due... The Drumhead all day long.

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