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This works for small businesses. Sending them an email will just wind up in spam. But show up in person, and you might get to talk to an actual person. This distinguishes you from some random, semi-anonymous piece of paper or text header.
If you're applying at some gigantic mega-corporation, then none of that matters. They won't have time to see you anyway, and will only look at your application if they specifically asked you to give them one.
Yeah I was going to say the same. Currently work at a small business run by a boomer so if the random person walking in looking for a job happens to catch him there's a 50/50 chance that person will get hired. Bonus if the person looking for work has a degree from a ivy league university, boomers love that shit. I don't know why someone with that sort of degree would be applying for a low wage small business job but the job market is a bit crazy nowadays.
The practice can backfire of course - I've seen the same boomer boss hire other boomers that barely know how to use a computer and then proceed to fail at his/her job spectacularly. It's interesting when you run into boomers looking for work and it turns out they spent most of their career relying on others to deal with the mundane tasks of dealing with email, spreadsheets, etc. So many of them spent their careers falling upwards into management roles until they were laid off/fired/whatever.
This distinguishes you from some random, semi-anonymous piece of paper or text header.
It also just gives them a lot more information about who you are as a person. A list of skills or lived experience can be misleading in all kinds of ways. And they only allow inferring personality traits indirectly, like someone with good grades is less likely to be a slacker, but ultimately you don't know.
I've never encountered anyone of any age that thinks that. Presentation of yourself is important, but nobody has ever even implied that just looking nice is enough to get everything. It's simply part of the whole equation.
Generationally, the only thing here I've seen disconnected between Boomers/Xers and yoinger generations like my own and Gen Z are that they have a different sense of what looks good or professional. Personally, I like that younger people also hate suits. Suits are stupid.
Every generation just gets more casual and I love it!
Pretty soon I won't even need to put on pants to run to the store!
I would love to live like an actual cartoon dog and only wear tshirts to express myself.
There is also such a thing as trying too hard. I once saw a guy show up in a blue button shirt with white collar and tie, to apply for a cook job. He got the job, and was good. But that outfit was a fucking costume and all it communicated was “I am into putting on a false front.”
Suits aren't stupid! There's casual suits, for one, and really there's suits for basically every occasion... There's so many different fits, different materials, different cuts...
That's just such a violent generalization, I simply can't stand by and say nothing.
Maybe the idea you have of a "suit", in your mind, sucks balls, but suits certainly don't suck balls.
what even is a proper suit supposed to represent?
like, i've grown up hating them as much as i hated everything else that was pushed onto me and i didn't understand.
i've never seen a single suit that looks good or made sense to me. what is the purpose in it?
At the end of the day, it's fashion -- you may just not like them. It's OK not to like suits, I'm not trying to push anyone here to like suits, I'm just saying they're not stupid.
I mean, why wear chinos? Why wear blazers? It's not like they're "superior" garments or something, they just... Look nice! That's it!
Suits are about showing that you care about what you wear and how you present yourself, because it's intentional -- you're wearing matching pants and blazer, maybe even a matching vest on top of that -- and that says that you meant to wear that, and didn't just happen to wear it because you liked those pants and you liked that shirt. A suit is an outfit that looks like it's meant to be worn as a single item: a suit. Not pants and a blazer; A suit!
That's what makes it "special", but it's really just clothes.
Maybe when you think of "suit" you think of something like this:
But this is also a suit:
Do they look the same to you? Is it the same vibe? Do you think they fit the same and are equally as comfortable?!
HELL NO!! I wouldn't want to wear that first skinny ass suit a single day in my life, but I think the second more relaxed suit looks very comfortable and reasonable, and something I could wear around without a problem.
Even if you still think both suits look bad, I hope this at least sheds some light on how not all suits are the same. What they do have in common is a cohesion that says that you meant to wear An Outfit^TM^, as opposed to putting on some pants and a jacket. Well, and they're a little more formal than a t-shirt and jeans, too.
Something that I think might've also been a problem for you when suits were pushed on you was that maybe you weren't wearing very good materials or very well-made stuff. I don't mean to say that I know your upbringing, but odds are you were forced to wear poorly-made polyester clothes that draped weird, didn't breathe well, and felt weird on the skin -- that's not exactly a good way to get a kid (or anyone, frankly...) to enjoy wearing anything.
I, at least, for the longest time, hated wearing collared shirts! Why? Not sure, but I assume a reason for that was that I was forced to wear them to church growing up and I hated both church and being forced to wear anything! Also, I was wearing shitty shirts that felt horrible to wear, regardless of occasion. Maybe you went through something similar.
ok, these two images explain a lot, thanks :D
yeah, the second one looks waay more comfy than the first one to me. and also i get your intention of wearing a complete, matching suit, like, stuff matches together. that's better than just wearing random individual unmatching items.
the way i do it is to select all my clothing that i have/own depending on color schemes. almost all my clothing is green/brown/red, (the brown being similar to the second picture) so it all automatically matches because it all has a certain vibe to it.
The only suits that aren't stupid are fursuits. 😤
I look positively bad ass in a sport coat, and I'm every bit as comfortable as in any other clothing.
The only time showing up in person works in the UK is if you're a teenager looking for part time or apprenticeship work in independent shops/hospitality/mechanics etc.
with job sites being the primary source of job hunting, you wont even get a chance in most cases to even an interview. and you can just show up to a business with a suit on, and demand to see a interviewer.
It does work sometimes because people can ignore an email or phone call, but its harder to ignore a person standing in front of you.
As an example we were contacting a business abut something we offered that we knew they needed.
Emails and phonecalls always got the reply of: I have left a note for the owner and when he has time he will contact you.
After months of that, and us happening to be in their area, we just dropped in unnounanced and asked for the owner.
He engaged with us , asked lots of questions, asked for samples and info. As we were doing that the secretary realized who we were and said something like " oh I've been meaning to have you read their emails and setup a meeting" lol
Too late lady.
That place you were going to will owe to give you the thing you want as a reward for your effort. This is exactly how the world works.
It's highly depends on a situation. But generally speaking it does work in a lot of situations.
You want work? Clean up, print a dozen resumes - apply online (if they have a website), then go and show up in the physical location. You will be noticed waaay more than a silent application.
You want to solve a service issue: even with big probiders atnt, T-Mobile there is a chance that a corporate store manager can do something.
Sometimes even between offices it can help if you show up in addition to the regular channels.
Being proactive, clean and respectful can take you long way.
Fundamentally, it's hard to overstate how much assertiveness skills can help you meet your needs. Just because it doesn't always work doesn't mean it never works. (When I say assertiveness, I mean confidently and respectfully seeking what you want)
The respect is the key word. Nowadays most people don't give a shit. So when you do, you stand out. And if you treat someone with courtesy they will be much more favorably towards you.
I'll agree that there are instances where it works, but the tricky part is knowing who those were. I love your second example because I worked at one of those stores and the manager could definitely get things done if you were polite and got the employees to advocate for you.
But, we wouldn't be much use in the first example because all applications were online, and the GM didn't interview anyone until HR told them to.
They have since closed that store, so there are only authorized agents in my town, and there's not a damn thing they can do for your billing issues.
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I think they mean in the context of getting a job. At least that’s what most of the reactions seem to assume. The post really doesn’t have enough detail.
Must be localized, doesn't happen here. Where?
Maybe more of a north american thing
There was a scene in mythic quest like this.
