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these guys used to be daring adventurers with goggles and swag and now the pilots have to wear a button down and the airlines squeeze every penny out of you and every drop of fun or joy or magic or adventure out of the experience.

in the 20s it was a great adventure! in the 60s people wore suits and got proper meals! now we just get xrayed and told we can't bring in water! i love starting my vacation being treated as a terrorist!

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 33 points 11 months ago

I personally avoid traveling by plane whenever I can, the experience and added stress just isn't worth the time saved.

[-] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 12 points 11 months ago
[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Welcome to Germany, where driving a car through the entire country for 8 hours is still a better experience than trying to go anywhere with Deutsche Bahn. 🤮

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

American who visited Germany last year:

The DB was insanely good compared to what we get. The app even worked! The twins even arrived generally when they were supposed to!

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Damn, this makes me dread ever taking a train in the US. 😅

[-] MolochAlter@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Fun fact: i had to take a train through Switzerland and change trains in Germany, on the day a major swiss tunnel collapsed.

I made it to Frankfurt perfectly on time despite having to go around a fucking mountain instead of through it, and still accrued 3 hours of total delay on the remainder, 2 of which were just the train being stuck at the station in Frankfurt itself.

I've taken to calling them Scheiße Bahn.

[-] abbadon420@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

International trains are fun though. They're also DB, but they get privilige. I was stuck in Utrecht (NL) once, heading to Arnhem, because a tree fell on the tracks. No trains could go to Arnhem. Until the ICE came. I got to take a detour via S' Hertogen Bosch. A train taking a detour is pretty unique, but the ICE get's the privilege to do that. I was 2 hours delayed, but at least I got home.

[-] TheSpermWhale@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

You’re not from the UK are you?

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

UK trains are user-fee hell. It's okay to hate them.

[-] jaykay@lemmy.zip 6 points 11 months ago

1.5 days by car vs 2h by plane, I’ll take the plane, thanks. But you do you 😋

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 5 points 11 months ago

For that amount of time yeah I'll take the plane, but for travelling from Montreal to Toronto (1h plane vs 5 hours train) I'll take the train as I'll be able to work in the train, I won't have to check-in and go past airport security, be there xx hours before departure, etc

[-] neryam@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I love the VIA 🥰 too bad they're having so much trouble building a high speed rail there though, it's honestly such a perfect use case...

[-] dingus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I wish there was a reasonable train line to where I'd want to go, but it's not like that for a majority of us in North America unfortunately. The few times I did have the ability to ride a train to my destination, I actually really enjoyed the experience.

[-] WeeSheep@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

It also use to be financially out of reach for most people. You can still pay for the nicer experience by paying for faster and easier security and first class seats. It's been made access to more financial groups, and most people choose or can only afford the cheaper option.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

First class on most domestic flights is a joke. You get on first and get a nicer seat. That’s about it. Everyone still walks by you as they board the plane and bump your seat with their luggage.

Back in the 60s and 70s there was a bar with couches, room to dance, and a piano!

[-] galloog1@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

That's called a private plane these days and it costs the equivalent.

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Now compare what flying in the 60's cost to what it costs today. If you want some magical luxury experience, you can fly First Class and get a comfortable seat with extra amenities and preferential treatment, but you're still just buying the cheap tickets aren't you.

Yes, the airline is squeezing every penny they can out of everything they can, and they're doing it because consumers are dramatically more sensitive to price than quality. When you look at the booking selection and the available flights are all more or less going to get the job done, you and just about everyone else will pick the one that costs $20 less, completely ignoring the First Class option that costs $800+ more. It's why everything seems to be shitty and cheap these days, quality goods and experiences still exist, but we don't pay for quality when the economy option costs a third as much.

[-] modegrau@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I counter this perspective with the fact that quality doesn't improve proportionally with the price. You pay more and get Incrementally less. That's actually not directly the consumers fault. If you paid two thirds more but got 150% more, then it would be worth it. But the only way to do that is probably to reduce the quality of the cheaper seats.

[-] agimus@startrek.website 15 points 11 months ago

Ok grandpa, let's get you back to bed.

[-] gaael@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Wait till you hear about the aviation impact on climate change !

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

Meh. Luxury!

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago

What are we tilling?

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 11 months ago

stop flying and take the train then, maybe you don't have to take a vacation to the canary islands every year

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

You can bring drinking water onto a plane. bring an empty water bottle through security, then fill it up at a drinking fountain in the terminal. You're good to go. Fun & Magic restored!

[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In the 60s it also cost 10x as much, took 2-3 times longer with constant layovers, was 20x more likely to get you killed, and a lot more likely to give you lung cancer from second hand smoke.

[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

The airlines were deregulated in the late 70s. This meant they could compete on price, instead of just differentiating through features. It’s been going downhill ever since.

[-] Eyelessoozeguy@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

I wish I could of tried a plane in those days

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

I simply of to point out that you of used the wrong word there. You of to realise that doing so can of the effect have making you look very ignorant

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Thank you for helping. Can you also watch for people putting an 's' on the word 'email' ?

[-] Mr_Blott@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

As in "I have five unread emails"?

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