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TO THE ADMINS: Read this thread and give me one good reason why federating with toxic, propaganda spreading tankie loons is a good idea.

No one wants those fucks, or the alt right dipshits for that matter, around, and they're spreading blatant lies, yet I see they are here. Does lemm.ee only care about boosting its numbers and is willing to sink to new lows to do it, I wonder? ๐Ÿค”

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[โ€“] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago

Please visit !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works for a taste of how hateful these Instances are.

Also remember that this kind of extremist content is endorsed by the Lemmy developers.

[โ€“] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hate these instances too but don't want to change the instance policies. Pretty soon instance blocking should become a thing and you'll be able to block them outright.

[โ€“] Bakzik@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

You know? We are open to discussions and polite exchanges in Hexbear. If there is good faith (and no racism, hate, ableism, homophobia, etc) there are a lot of bridges to build and learn.

But you came to Hexbear to start shit. And now you are resurrecting a 2 days old post because you are angry about not receiving upvotes in our instance.

che-smile

[โ€“] Ignacio@beehaw.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I have enough luck to have joint instances that don't federate with fascists, being they red or not. However, when one of those instances decide to federate with them (not going to happen, but let's pretend), I'll protest like you're doing. And if it doesn't work, I'll go to a more inclusive instance.

Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that a fascist is not the same thing as a communist. But they're equally despicable.

[โ€“] misk@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Don't get me wrong, I fully understand that a fascist is not the same thing as a communist. But they're equally despicable.

Fascism is inherently anti-democratic, communism isn't. I know communism is a shorthand for stalinism, maoism and other totalitarian ideologies that use socialist facade (similar to national socialism) but it's worth to make an effort not to discredit the whole idea.

[โ€“] Ignacio@beehaw.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, you're right. Sometimes I think that communism is merely an economic system. But thinking about Stalin, Mao and Il-Sung, whose communist developments where economic, social, democratic and whatnot, it's sometimes hard to discriminate the noise from the useful information too.

Besides, I can't understand why communists / tankies are so prone to support dictators. Dictatorship is not exclusive to communism, even capitalism had and has some kind of dictatorships: Hungary, Belarus...

[โ€“] tastysnacks@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago

I think capitalism leans into the human trait that wants power. I think communism leans into the human trait that wants to be taken care of. That's a little off, but you get the idea. In both dictatorship is possible but capitalism has more infighting.

[โ€“] blazera@kbin.social -2 points 2 years ago (9 children)
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