this post was submitted on 13 Aug 2023
1435 points (97.0% liked)

World News

49763 readers
1838 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world 180 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it's a crime, do not fire them, lock them up in pris-

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called the actions "treason" and has initiated criminal proceedings.

Oh. Oh well.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 101 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Also, one of the main reasons the Russian army has been underperforming is corruption. Loads of money siphoned, incompetent people getting positions, you name it. Zelenskyy is also making sure the same doesn't happen in his country and stays on top performance/efficiency wise.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (14 children)

Zelenskyy will go down in history with the likes of all great leaders. The man has risen to legendary status. Once this war is won and Ukraine is free, I hope he gets that much deserved beer and beach vacation.

Slava Ukraina

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I can only agree with every single word, but I think he should go the Churchill way, and just find some peaceful and relaxing job once the whole thing is over (I know, Churchill actually stayed around for a while). For one: because he will definitely deserve it; but for two: looking at history (not excluding my own country's), too many great politicians have fallen into the "...or you live long enough to become the villain" category. I'm rooting hard for Zelenskyy to at least get a draw and not go mad later.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 years ago

He has said a few times that after the war he'll retire from politics.

Considering his abysmal approval rating before the war and his huge popularity during it, I think he'll take the "amazing wartime president" label and happily walk away afterwards.

If history has shown us anything, the politicians you need in wartime and peacetime need very different skillsets.

load more comments (13 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Colorcodedresistor@lemm.ee 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Zelensky didn't want the job either but he packed up his actor clothes and has so far been putting on a damn fine leadership show. I can imagine plenty of wealthier families are trying to dodge. who wouldn't...10k seems low for bargaining ones potential life. not that any of this or that in ukraine is good right now. I just hope zelensky's soul isn't so blackened that he turns this into a teaching moment rather than punishment.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] gigachad@feddit.de 51 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Bruh what's wrong with this comment section

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 39 points 2 years ago (44 children)

Lemmy.ml tankies gunna tankie

[–] PugJesus@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Tankies are what happens when kids start snorting totalitarianism at a young age. Heartbreaking!

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (43 replies)
[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

People who apparently think just lying down and dying is the best option when facing an invading country killing civilians en-mass. I have a feeling their opinion would be different it was their family being killed by invaders, if it was their country facing complete destruction.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 28 points 2 years ago

You should see the threads where the huxbear and lemmygrad users get going!

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Wage_slave@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, in my limited knowledge and general thoughts about it being treason, I agree with what he's saying as it doesn't come off as these recruiters are trying to be compassionate and save citizens to become soldiers.

Sounds like profiteering favoritism to keep rich and prominent men and women from serving.

This doesn't strike me as 16 year old Billy is getting handed a bayonet and told to die for oil.

Bottom line, against or for the war, people getting rich by saving the rich is a pretty shitty way to do your profiteering.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] DarkMFG@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Don't know about you, but I think bribery should be an act of treasen whether at war or at peace.

[–] Aermis@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Treason is a really powerful crime that carries heavy consequences. Bribery at peace should still carry consequences but in some cases (countries) treason alone carries a death penalty. Bribery during peace maybe shouldn't carry such a steep penalty

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Lols@lemm.ee 20 points 2 years ago (2 children)

accepting bribes is bad actually

being sent to war against your will is bad actually

[–] PeckerBrown@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Being invaded by shitbirds is bad actually.

Not fighting them is bad actually.

Diluting that message is bad actually.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 years ago (6 children)

I'm sorry but invasions are a justifiable reason to impose a draft.

load more comments (6 replies)
[–] dx1@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Alt-righters calling Zelenskyy corrupt and so on all day long. Look how stressed his face looks. He's aged like 30 years since the war started.

load more comments
view more: next ›