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submitted 10 months ago by Toldry@lemmy.world to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

I'm on the market to buy a new laptop, and Lemmy has successfully coaxed and goaded me to give Linux a serious try.

I've never used *nix as my personal OS.

Which hardware/laptop do you recommend? And which OS to pair it with for a Linux newbie?

I'm a software engineer, and quit my job to pursue an MSc in AI. So my uses will be:

  • programming
  • study
  • browsing lemmy
  • gaming
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[-] gbrown@transfem.space 5 points 10 months ago

Some recommendations I would suggest are: -Linux-specific laptops (HP Dev One, System76, etc.) as they are built specifically with running Linux in mind. -Framework Laptops, as Framework has worked hard to make sure Linux works well with their devices. -ThinkPads, as their hardware usually tends to work really well with Linux.

I personally use the Framework Laptop 13 running Debian, and I love it!

[-] gaterush@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

A couple mentions in here of Linux Mint, I also recommend it having tried out a few distros before landing here. Especially if you go with an external GPU laptop, which might be a good choice for gaming needs, then Linux Mint has been really good about solving all of the annoying driver problems that could come up.

I have a Dell G15 Ryzen (AMD with nvidia GPU), it's been pretty good but there's always a trade-off between bulkiness and gaming needs. It's just a little awkward to lug around to coffee shops, but it's certainly got enough processing power for me.

System76 was a contender too, I think I just went with whichever was on sale!

[-] averyfalken@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 months ago

I have never had an issue on Linux mint that was not me fucking with the comabd line doing things it warned me I should not, or that wasn't outright a hardware failure

[-] blotz@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't know if I can recommend framework. I've been having lots of reliability issues with their hardware.

I had massive issues a few months in. Lots of weird issues such as SSD randomly disconnects, screen flicker & system crashes, and issues with powering on after leaving the laptop overnight.

Been emailing back and forth with them since October trying out different fixes. All this time I haven't really been able to use my laptop reliably. It should be getting sorted eventually. Their warrenty is pretty good and they finally agreed to replace the whole thing.

The laptop was nice. The modular ports was kinda cool because you can choose your io. The nice part was being able to open the laptop and upgrade parts without voiding warrenty. I think this is hardware issues rather than linux compatibility issues.

Maybe a Thinkpad would be more reliable for uni work

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[-] gianni@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I see a lot of Framework recommendations, and I had the 12th gen Framework for around a year running Fedora. I faced a bunch of excessive power use issues, and had to add some kernel flags just to get maybe 4 hours of battery life. The device is notoriously repairable, but the one thing that conked out on me was actually the mainboard, which was like the price of a new device. Support spent two weeks trying to find out if it was anything else before sending me a replacement mainboard.

My friend recently got a Zenbook 14 OLED with the same processor. The entire device was $200 cheaper lightly used than the Frameworks mainboard alone, and the only issue is the speakers don't work. That being said, he gets almost double my battery life, and a 90hz OLED screen on top of it all. Plus more ports; even with Framework's modular add-in cards I don't feel it is as flexible a system as having >4 useful ports.

My time with the Framework was great, but I wouldn't recommend it. Getting something secondhand is an environmentally conscious option, and you can get great stuff secondhand.

[-] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago

I use an asus rog g15 from 2021. It actually has pretty great linux support with asus-ctl but I can't recommend it in good concience for professional purposes, it is decked out with rgb also asus has a pretty bad reputation of customer support.

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[-] rowinxavier@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

For the software side I would recommend Linux Mint as a great simple starter distro with good support and a nice community. The overall design paradigm is about maintaining familiarity while also making sane defaults and simplifying processes. Because it is Ubuntu based it is also easy to get documentation and support because what works for Ubuntu also works for Mint.

For hardware it really depends on your budget and locality as well as use case. Laptops vary much more country to country than you may think, so it may be worth thinking about what is local to you. For example, I live in Australia so System76 is a bad choice here, same with SlimBook (I think that is the name, European KDE laptop that advertises with that French(?) YouTuber, they don't ship here.

Also, when looking at laptops the RAM configuration is important. If you have two RAM slots but only one RAM stick you will have really slow memory access. This will bottleneck for both the CPU and GPU if you are using both at the same time, say during gaming or doing AI work. Swapping out the single stick for a matching pair or just adding one more stick that matches what it already has will let both ports work together, making everything faster. Also when I say matching I mean in terms of size and speed. If you put 3200MHz and 2400MHz in the system at the same time the 3200MHz won't just down tune to match, they will both go slower as far as I am aware. Best to match not only the speed but if possible the brand and ideally model, there are lots of little differences between RAM sticks and honestly it has never been worth the trouble in my experience to have mismatched sticks, I just replace with a matching pair.

[-] key@lemmy.keychat.org 2 points 10 months ago

Lenovo ThinkPads are what I've mainly used the last decades and they're quite Linux friendly now, can even buy them with Linux preinstall I believe.

Framework feels more in the spirit of Linux than most but I haven't owned one.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 10 months ago

Not a laptop, but I replaced my old laptop with a micro PC from minisforum EM680 and I'm very happy running Linux Mint in it. If you tend to use your laptop on the same spot, it's a great way have a more performing and ergonomic PC for the same or lower price.

I can power it from my monitor, so I can have only one cable at the desk. Bluetooth and wifi working out of the box.

At any rate, I suggest you stick to AMD graphics as they have native open source support.

[-] jezebelley@kzoo.to 2 points 10 months ago

@Toldry System76 hardware is great and they run their own distro Pop!_OS. Highly recommend their machines. I have one otw as we speak.

[-] calzone_gigante@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Choose whatever laptop you like, and do a quick search on the model for incompatibilities. If there's something critical or long-term, like a very specific hardware module not working well without its proprietary driver, consider changing, but most of the time, Linux will just work.

For distro, PopOS is good. It doesn't come with a bunch of bloatware, but it is also not barebones. Mint is also a great choice.

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