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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

72 million gun owners seems low to me...

Here's a stat that pegs the total number of guns at around 434 million and just under 20 million AR-15s.

https://www.guns.com/news/2020/11/17/data-us-has-434-million-guns-20m-ars-150m-mags

At only 72 million gun owning homes, that would mean, on average, 6 guns per gun owner?

https://americangunfacts.com/gun-ownership-statistics/

22% of gun owners have only a single firearm. So if the 72 million number is correct, that means 15,840,000 single gun owners, and the remaining 418,160,000 guns are owned by 56,160,000, or 7.45 guns per owner.

[-] HumanPenguin@lemmy.cafe 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

LHaving met a good few gun fans. Yeah 7 to 8 guns seems like a low average.

Helped a friend move from a apartment to a new house. Over 15 guns. I say over as he also had a number of parts. I do not know enough to know if complete guns could be built. Looked like a few complete guns possible to my non gun fan eyes.

This was when I lived in GA. He was not considered unusual by most of the friends helping us.

What seems less likely to me. Is all 72m around the US siding with Texas.

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[-] sxan@midwest.social 14 points 10 months ago

Oh, the math in this is all kinds of fucked up. OPOP knows stats exists, they just haven't met it personally.

Not all 72M gun owners live in Texas, and not all of the ones that do support these turds. They mention an AR15 stat, and then completely ignore it in the conclusion.

Also, as someone else reponded, yeah: 6 guns per owner seems about right on average. I have 6: two rifles and 4 handguns. And there are a few more I'd like to collect; I wouldn't be surprised if I had 10 or 11, eventually. It's a hobby, and I like to shoot. And I don't even hunt; hunters are going to have different guns for differrent game, and might have even more than average.

It's a hobby, and like hobbies, the people who are into it are going to own predominantly more of the thing. The 2A and gun violence make it a political and socially sensitive topic, and changes the verbiage, but otherwise the same hobby trends apply.

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[-] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

As the War of 1812 showed "organized militias" kinda suck.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I fear it won't be organized militias like the US civil war. A force with armies, clear borders, is much easier to fight against.

It'll be more like the IRA. Lots of domestic terrorism, mostly acts committed by "lone wolfs".

And for what? Some orange turd? State's right to commit human rights violations?

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 10 points 9 months ago

They knew this in 1776. The Swamp Fox and his militia were the only effective group, and they did it by being terrorists, but that's kind of the general idea these days.

I don't think anyone expects militias to actually hold a front anymore. At best they expect them to get rolled into the real military and go through retraining until most of them wash out because they weren't expecting to do anything but dress up and fantasize about killing brown people.

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[-] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago

This idea that the US military is just gonna bomb Houston without the people in the Air Force saying, hey, wait a minute, I've got family there, is just stupid. If you think that US Civil War Part II is going to be over quickly and easily, without the same kind of grind that we had the first time, well, I've got some bad news for you.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

While you do have a point that is also how every civil war starts. People don't want to fight until they do. Lincoln was in command of the troops in south until he wasn't. Even Ceaser had some mutiny because civil war is not fun. Scary part is it happens anyway.

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[-] Hoomod@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Why would they bomb cities? You'd drone strike the leadership and it would have minimal (if any) extra casualties.

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[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

going by Ukraine, which is the only footage I've seen of real modern warfare: I saw a video of a drone detecting a soldier from high up. The soldier is lying prone aiming their rifle..The drone drops an object. There is a small pop and the soldier dies. It wasn't a big explosion, you couldn't even see blood or a wound, probably just enough to be fatal without causing a horrible mess.

That's what I imagine it'll be. A bunch of people sitting around bored and they don't even know they're dead until one second they are looking at the horizon, the next second their intestines in confusion as their consciousness fades.

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[-] graycube@kbin.social 13 points 10 months ago

Most people I know who own guns do so because they are afraid of black people. Not because they are itching to join a rebellion.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You like to hang out with white supremacists?

I know probably a hundred gun owners since I have my own range, none of them own firearms because they're afraid of black people... considering about half of them including myself are POCs...

You're statement which is false as fuck just makes you sound like a racist.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 9 months ago

Not all of those 72 million people are chuds. Statistically speaking, like 50 million of those 72 million can't make it to the end of their driveway without needing to catch their breath.

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[-] doctorcrimson@lemmy.today 11 points 10 months ago

72M? The fuq? Where is that number coming from? They can't even get support from more than 15 (some of the least populated) states in the USA, and as a resident of one of those states they definitely aren't unanimous for fucking Treason.

If anything, I better not catch those fuckers in the street or it'll devolve into a real good guy with a gun dilemma.

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