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[–] Chozo@kbin.social 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If you paste plaintext passwords into ChatGPT, the problem is not ChatGPT; the problem is you.

[–] R00bot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Well tbf chatGPT also shouldn't remember and then leak those passwords lol.

[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did you read the article? It didn't. Someone received someone else's chat history appended to one of their own chats. No prompting, just appeared overnight.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

........ That shouldnt be happening, regardless of chat content

[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, yeah, but the point is, ChatGPT didn't "remember and then leak" anything, the web service exposed people's chat history.

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[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Well, that's even worse.

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[–] psud@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hey chatGPT, is hunter2 a good password?

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I cannot tell you about the effectiveness of "*******" as a password.

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[–] stoly@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

LOL people are teaching ChatGPT their passwords? Why?

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (8 children)

People are so stupid that a lot of them believe ChatGPT is intelligent.

[–] HelloHotel@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Stupid is too harsh. They could be as intelegent as you or me. but... they are told propaganda/marketing, the thing is made to hide its rough edges and the hype from the propaganda machine puts people in a hazey mindset where its hard to think.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They could be as intelligent as you or me.

They are certainly pretty stupid if they are as intelligent as me.

[–] doctorcrimson@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Who are you, wisest of all the greeks?

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because they’re technologically fucking brain dead

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It also literally says to not input sensitive data...

This is one of the first things I flagged regarding LLMs, and later on they added the warning. But if people don't care and are still gonna feed the machine everything regardless, then that's a human problem.

[–] NaoPb@eviltoast.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hello can you help me, my password is such and such and I can't seem to login.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People literally do this though. I work in IT and people have literally said, out loud, with people around that can hear what we're saying clearly, this exact thing.

I'm like.... I don't want your password. I never want your password. I barely know what my password is. I use a password manager.

IT should never need your password. Your boss and work shouldn't need it. I can log in as you without it most of the time. I don't, because I couldn't give any less of a fuck what the hell you're doing, but I can if I need to....

If your IT person knows what they're doing, most of the time for routine stuff, you shouldn't really see them working, things just get fixed.

Gah.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lmao my IT guy asks for our passwords to certain things on an annual basis, stores them as plain text in a fucking email.

First Time he did it I was like "uhh, not supposed to share that?" And he just insisted he needed it. Whatever, he wants to log in to my Autodesk account he's free to. Not sure how much damage he could do.

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[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago (6 children)

ChatGPT doesn't leak passwords. Chat history is leaking which one of those happens to contain a plain text password. What's up with the current trend of saying AI did this and that while the AI really didn't?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 13 points 1 year ago

People are far too willing to believe AI can do anything. How would the AI even have the passwords.

[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fear mongering. Remember all the people raging and freaking out about Disney's "AI generated background actors"? Just plain bad CG.

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[–] kusivittula@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

gots to get dem clicks

[–] Nommer@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

FUD for clicks

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago

AT headlines aren’t usually so click bait-ey, but capitalism grows like weeds. Every last news article, we’ve GOT to all ask, who does this serve? Who paid for this irresponsible headline to be run? Whose income is it meant to harm?

Every newsroom boss, like every judge, needs to pay for healthcare (at best, or at worst, or whatever will give them access to some billionaire’s climate survival bunker.) This IS late stage surveillance capitalism. Every decision now is based on that.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

So what actually happened seems to be this.

  • a user was exposed to another users conversation.

thats a big ooof and really shouldn’t happen

  • the conversations that where exposed contained sensitive userinformation

unresponsible user error, everyone and their mom should know better by now

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you gotta treat chat GPT like it's a public GitHub repository.

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[–] ZzyzxRoad@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Why is it that whenever a corporation loses or otherwise leaks sensitive user data that was their responsibility to keep private, all of Lemmy comes out to comment about how it's the users who are idiots?

Except it's never just about that. Every comment has to make it known that they would never allow that to happen to them because they're super smart. It's honestly one of the most self-righteous, tone deaf takes I see on here.

[–] summerof69@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

I don't support calling people idiots, but here's that: we can't control whether corporations leak our data or not, but we can control whether we share our password with ChatGPT or not.

Because that's what the last several reported "breaches" have been. There's been a lot of accounts that were compromised by an unrelated breach, but the users re-used the passwords for multiple accounts.

In this case, ChatGPT clearly tells you not to give it any sensitive information, so giving it sensitive information is on the user.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

Data loss or leaks may not be the end user's fault, but it is their responsibility. Yes, open AI should have had shit in place for this to never have happened. Unfortunately, you, I, and the users whose passwords were leaked have no way of knowing what kinds of safeguards on my data they have in place.

The only point of access to my information that I can control completely is what I do with it. If someone says "hey, don't do that with your password" they're saying it's a potential safety issue. You're putting control of your account in the hands of some entity you don't know. If it's revealed, well, it's THEIR fault, but you also goofed and should take responsibility for it.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because people who come to Lemmy tend to be more technical and better on questions of security than the average population. For most people around here, much of this is obvious and we're all tired of hearing this story over and over while the public learns nothing.

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[–] NedRyerson@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Who knew everyone had the same password as me? I always thought I was the only 'hunter2' out there!

[–] Strobelt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow! Lemmy is now blurring passwords? It only shows asterisks to me!

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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why the fuck would you give any AI your password???? People are so goddamn stupid

[–] SparrowRanjitScaur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe they're asking chatgpt to generate a password for them

[–] snek@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

As a general rule of thumb, do not do this.

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[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Use local and open source models if you care about privacy.

[–] baseless_discourse@mander.xyz 8 points 1 year ago

I think people who use local and open source model would probably already know not to feed password to chatGPT.

[–] HelloHotel@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I absolutely agree. Use somthing like ollama. do keep in mind that it takes a lot of compiting resources to run these models. About 5GB ram and about 3GB filesize for the smaller sized ollama-unsensored.

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[–] realharo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Not directly related, but you can disable chat history per-device in ChatGPT settings - that will also stop OpenAI from training on your inputs, at least that's what they say.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's funny, all I see is ********

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Back in the RuneScape days people would do dumb password scams. My buddy was introducing me to the game. We were sitting in his parents garage and he was playing and showing me his high lvl guy. Anyway, he walks around the trading area and someone says something like “omg you can’t type your password backwards *****”. In total disbelief he tries it out. Instantly freaks out, logs out to reset his password, and fails due to to the password already being changed

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

That's golden. With all my hatred towards scammers, there's a little niche for scams that make people feel smart before undressing them that I can't bring myself to judge.

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[–] Xyphius@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2.

haha, does that look funny to you?

[–] whodatdair@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I put on my robe and wizard hat.

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[–] Ganbat@lemmyonline.com 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

They weren't there when I used ChatGPT just last night (I'm a pretty heavy user). No queries were made—they just appeared in my history, and most certainly aren't from me (and I don't think they're from the same user either).

This sounds more like a huge fuckup with the site, not the AI itself.

Edit: A depressing amount of people commenting here obviously didn't read the article...

[–] trk@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Edit: A depressing amount of people commenting here obviously didn't read the article...

Every time

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