this post was submitted on 24 Feb 2024
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Unpopular Opinion

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I'm done, I've been banned for expressing a different opinion (without insulting or personally attacking anyone), I've been accused of evading a ban with multiple accounts (this is my only account I've ever had on any lemmy instance), I've had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I've had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.

Reddit has many issues with trolls, one-sided discussion, and just general bullshit, but many Lemmy instances are way worse. The newfound freedom of Lemmy has attracted many extremists, from both sides, and many of them are moderators, who are more than happy to remove any contrarian opinions. This results in discussions being echo chambers

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[–] Smoogs@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Sometimes it does feel like Reddit circa 2005 when beatwomen subs were casually accepted

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least your comment won't be hidden because it has many downvotes.

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[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (10 children)

that hexbear place..... Wow.

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[–] wathek@discuss.online 5 points 1 year ago (23 children)

I just got banned from blahaj for suggesting we should show understanding to rightwing people, because they view the left in the same way as we view them. It creates more division for no reason other than being unwilling to communicate.

Reason: Bigot

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This really isn’t unpopular. If anything I would say this is the more popular opinion

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I’ve had people selectively ignore my comments and accuse me of things which I never said, and I’ve had people ignore valid criticisms and keep attacking me.

Thats basic internet bad faith arguing 101.

Don't argue what the person said, argue what you imagine the person said.

its quite popular.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Lemmy and reddit were always the same, it's the same people. Lemmy is arguably more free, but that could be for better or for worse.

Lemmy is reddit without the need to please advertisers, but it's all the same people

[–] buzziebee@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Because the community on Lemmy is so much smaller it's a lot easier for small groups of dedicated posters to dominate discussions on certain topics.

I've noticed a lot of the same behaviour as you have on certain topics. Unfortunately it's difficult because like you say engaging on those topics is frustrating because the people with an agenda have more time and energy than you to dedicate to pushing their narrative, and aren't open to more nuanced discussion.

There's an interesting blog I think about regularly about online communities that I think you might find interesting: https://eev.ee/blog/2016/07/22/on-a-technicality/

Now that article calls for banning of assholes. I don't think that'll work on lemmy, so instead I propose this: If you just accept that those people are going to continue to do their thing and instead engage in the more positive parts of Lemmy then overall we might be able to build a bigger community of people who add positively to Lemmy. If you or others who are being pushed away leave then the asshole : positive people ratio will only get worse.

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[–] FontMasterFlex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

thank you, at least someone is saying it.

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