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[-] Hyperlich@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 8 months ago

Honestly surprised Hawaii is so low. Maybe it's because so many of the native Hawaiians and locals got pushed out.

[-] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 8 months ago

I think it's probably because of that. The settlers see themselves as American.

[-] Giyuu@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Disclaimer I am not Hawaiian but yeah it looks like even if the descendants of immigrants from Asia have some Hawaiian blood they still identify as American. I did look at the demographic section of Wikipedia under Hawaii and saw that white and Asian identification was declining and PI/Native Hawaiian had climbed a percentage point each of the last two decades, so maybe something is happening positively. But there are a whole host of other questions you can ask about that. It looks like decolonization will be an arduous process for the real Hawaiians.

Either way, I hope to God the other island territories do not get caught in the trap that is statehood. They must go independent. Hawaii would be the best example for these territories that have statehood self determination movements of why statehood is a trap. Statehood is the opposite of decolonization.

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not pushed out, murdered.

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 8 months ago

It's crazy just how high these numbers are, the lowest is 13%. I wouldn't have guessed it was so bad.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago

Yeah, I didn't realize just how volatile the situation was either.

[-] ExotiqueMatter@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

With that much separatism America wouldn't recover from a second civil war.

I had a hunch that the recent situation with Texas disobeying the federal government and involving the Texan national guard was very under reported for how bad the situation seems for America This kind of confirm my intuition.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 8 months ago

I imagine a lot of US mythology feeds into this actually. People are brought up thinking that US is built on rugged individualism, and to mistrust any sort of a central government. So, it's only natural that they will increasingly blame the federal government for their problems as they start falling on increasingly hard times.

[-] Ocommie63@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 months ago

Yes ha ha ha YES

[-] HaSch@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 8 months ago

I can see Texas or California, but how in the seven hells would Nebraska secede from the USA? Even if there weren't a war or a siege, how do they expect to survive by themselves?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 8 months ago

It wouldn't be the first to secede, but if Texas ended up seceding, I can see a bunch of red states joining them at some point.

[-] sinovictorchan@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 8 months ago

I do not even know that there are many people that want independence in the Western European diaspora since I had need relying on Pax Americana news to know events, the Pax Americana always avoid topics of major internal conflicts in the countries of European and European diaspora.

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