The starting guide of de-googled user (lemmy.ml)

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WILL BE UPDATE OFTEN Last update : 8/30/2024

THE GUIDE FOR DE-GOOGLED APPS

(🏆 = just the best app ; ❤️ = a more than excellent app)

REMEMBER : Do not install every apps you find, for your security and privacy only install needed apps.

ANDROID

1- Phone and messaging

Phone --> Fossify Phone 🏆

Messages --> Quik SMS 🏆

Contacts --> Fossify contacts 🏆

Whatsapp --> SimpleX ❤️ Briar (For advanced users, maximum privacy concerns)

2- Networking

Chrome (browser) --> Cromite (must be configured) Mull ❤️(slower but not chromium-based, must be configured)

Discord --> Element (matrix.org client)

Reddit --> Voyager (a Lemmy client)

3- Multimedia

YouTube --> Libretube ❤️ Tubular (a NewPipe fork)

Spotify --> RiMusic ❤️

Google podcasts (podcasts) --> Antenna Pod 🏆

Gallery --> Fossify Galley ❤️ (Basic app) Aves ❤️ (Advanced gallery)

4- Tools

QrScanner --> Binary eye 🏆

Gboard --> HeliBoard ❤️ (OpenBoard fork)

IME keyboard --> Sayboard

Local sharing --> LocalSend ❤️

Google authenticator (2FA) --> Aegis 🏆

Lastpass (password manager) --> Bitwarden 🏆 (Self-hosted) KeePassDX 🏆 (local storage)

Gcam --> Open camera

5- Others

Clock --> Clock You

Google calendar --> Etar ❤️

PDF viewer --> MJ PDF

Office --> LibreOffice Viewer ❤️ (Only for reading)

LINUX

For more convenience, you can download your apps using the command line and flatpak (Flathub.org)

1- OS

Some Linux distributions recommendations :

Linux Mint and Pop OS (for all levels)
Arch (mainly for gaming but you can use it as working OS)
Debian (for productivity (greatest compatibility) )

For most basic users I recommend using Gnome desktop environment

2- Softwares

Browser --> Firefox 🏆 (It's recommended to tweaks and the settings and use custom user.js (Explanations about user.js)) Librewolf ❤️ (For an out-of-the-box great experience)

Office --> The LibreOffice Suite ❤️

File sharing --> Local Send ❤️

YouTube --> FreeTube

Adobe Illustrator --> Inkscape

Lemmy --> Photon

Matrix --> Element

That's all, hope you enjoy, do not hesitate to save the post for future updates and comment your recommendations below ⬇️⬇️

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[-] legoraft@reddthat.com 10 points 8 months ago

I would also recommend firefox/firefox nightly as web browser and perhaps grayjay for youtube alternative (it still uses the youtube service tho)

[-] FriendBesto@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

For Privacy, Mull is better than FF out of the box, from F-Droid.

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[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Mull is a good browser. Basically the librewolf of android.

I actually use gcam cause it's better but I will turn off network connectivity from it.

Same for gboard, I use it but cut internet connectivity from it off

For calendar I use proton calendar but that might be a service for paid customers

Qr code I've been using qr code & barcode scanner

Youtube I switch between libretube and Tubular if libretube doesn't work

If you want to use discord then Aliucord is a good hardened client for android, kind of like Webcord on desktop.

Spotify, I use a cracked one called Xmanager but I can also access my self hosted music in Synology Audio or Jellyfin.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

In this guide I propose Foss apps for a completely degoogled phone, so I will not recommend Gcam and Gboard, I privilege Libretube as it hide our IP from YouTube, and I do not recommend at all Xmanager because it just remove the ads and paywalls but not tweaks the privacy 😄 for discord, I will not recommend to use the system of discord because of what's behind...

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

I totally get it. Thanks for making the list though! I hope it helps a lot of people on their degoogling journey.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 4 points 8 months ago

❤️

[-] Sho@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 months ago

Localsend has made file transfers from my laptop to mobile devices and vice versa, so much easier!

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Its one of the best file transfer app, compatible with every platform its just a must have! Thank you for testing my recommandations :)

[-] Sho@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 months ago

I completely agree with you! You're welcome but I've been actually Localsend since last year, so I just wanted to pitch in as a user as well. 😊

Also I like to use the software to share URL links to my mobiles and transfer entire folders.

[-] marcdw@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

I'm gonna have to give this one a try. Syncthing is being a pain in my backside.

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[-] drengbarazi@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I honestly love KOReader for all things reading

[-] blibla@slrpnk.net 3 points 8 months ago

librera is prettier and more feature rich imo

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

KOReader is good for reading not PDF viewing

[-] drengbarazi@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

True, it is a bit wonky indeed when opening some chonky pdf files... I guess I just got familiar with the layout bc I was already accustomed with it on a jailbroken kindle.

Once you get the bells & whistles down, you can pretty much read anything cozily on any screen/orientation. Still, more of an e-reader app than a PDF viewer.

Anyway, thanks for the guide! Lots of apps I didn't know about and I'll be sure to try them all out :)

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Thank you for your comment, appreciate it! I will slowly expand this guide to became the all in one starting guide, I'm in the degoogling journey since a bit now and I think it can be really helpful for new users who need to have a starting point, keep support this little project I will be here as long as google will stay here ;)

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 8 months ago

Saved for future reference ❤️

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[-] viking@infosec.pub 4 points 8 months ago

I've tried every FOSS QR scanner, and unfortunately, binary eye is total crap. They don't fully support all formats, and you need to get a near perfectly illuminated shot of the code. Also doesn't scan regular barcodes whatsoever.

Reverted back to a commercial app for lack of options. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.scanteam.qrcodereader (adfree, despite the "contains ads" banner).

Shame really, I would like to have a FOSS alternative for such a seemingly simple application.

[-] Echo5@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

I think the graphite OS camera app comes with a QR scanner, might could try that

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Why do you have this bad impressions of binary eye? Its maybe not the most feature rich, but it's working perfectly for me. And I wouldn't suggest this app from the play store.. So I'm going to search a bit more and maybe find something interesting

[-] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Like I mentioned, I tried every available FOSS app (on f-droid that is, plus a bunch of github releases, many sadly abandoned), and none of them was able to scan all QR and barcodes I tested it with.

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[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 2 points 8 months ago

Have you tried SECUSO QR Scanner?

[-] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think I had, but it was crashing when scanning regular barcodes, which I'm doing at work quite a bit since our ERP prints them for version control on our quality documents.

I've just tested it again and it seems to work, will be using them in parallel for a while. Thanks!

Edit: Just checked the changelog, looks like that was a bug that's only been fixed this January, I've been trying to find a QR scanner sometime last year, so that was probably a buggy release then. https://github.com/SecUSo/privacy-friendly-qr-scanner/blob/HEAD/CHANGELOG.md

[-] UprisingVoltage@feddit.it 2 points 8 months ago

Might be interesting trying it again than!

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

Maybe you can retry BinaryEye too, because its incredibly fast for recongnizing qr code even in dark environments and not straight on it

[-] viking@infosec.pub 2 points 8 months ago

Yep, on it. So far so good! And I inherently trust projects coming out of German universities, so that's a bonus.

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[-] tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 8 months ago

What about the clock?

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[-] Linguist@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

For browser: Vanadium or Mull

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Hummm, for Mull the problem is that it lacks some functionality, has not an advanced ad-blocking (even with ublock origin) and firefox-based so it's slower on Android, that's a fact.. But I've no doubt that Vanadium is really cool but is it possible to get it without grapheneos?

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

Vanadium is GrapheneOS only, it specifically doesn't reimplement things that GrapheneOS already does so might not be as secure on other devices anyway. They used to recommend Bromite too, that's now become Cromite which seems pretty good in my experience.

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[-] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 3 points 8 months ago

I've been using this open board fork: https://github.com/erkserkserks/openboard

Mainly because it comes with trace/swipe type input. Is there anything else out there that's better and more up to date? Probably not up to modifying the above to include libraries.

I was a long term Swype user prior to getting a pixel 7, which it can't be installed on due to it being 32bit. I've not found anything else FOSS or otherwise that comes close to being as good as Swype's trace predictions. Sadly Microsoft bought the company that made Swype so the odds are it's never going to see the light of day again. They have their shitty Swiftkey app instead.

[-] viking@infosec.pub 3 points 8 months ago

I'm still using Swype on my OnePlus, even 5 years after it was delisted. I'm dreading updating to Android 14 because of this.

But from what I read on the xda-dev forum, it's not the 32 vs. 64 bit architecture being problematic, but rather than Android 14 enforces a minimum version of the android sdk, and for an app that hasn't been updated for so long, they are now falling behind the requirements.

There's an ongoing discussion where people have posted recompiled apks with current sdk api though, that appear to be working: https://xdaforums.com/t/any-way-to-run-swype-dragon-keyboard-on-android-14-on-pixel-6-pro.4640113/page-5

If you decide to give it a try, please report back! :-)

[-] Longmactoppedup@aussie.zone 1 points 8 months ago

I'll try it when i get spare time. Based on post #79 in that XDA thread, it won't work on my pixel 7 as it also won't install 32 bit apps, same as pixel 8.

I run Graphene, but as far as I'm aware it has the same 32bit restriction.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Hello, I'm going to search an alternative with swift writing. I've seen that you can use gesture typing with my recommandation (HeliBoard), have you tried it?

[-] scott@lem.free.as 2 points 8 months ago

Yep. Works very well.

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[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 8 months ago

I tried a lot of keyboards but didn't find anything that felt just right until I switched to Heliboard and I've been really happy with it. The only thing I miss is being able to add gifs but I won't be switching back.

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

The problem is that there's no real Foss GIF platform... So you have to keep this

[-] Emperor@feddit.uk 2 points 8 months ago

Oh indeed. I expect someone will work to fill that gap eventually.

[-] jg1i@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

Google Photos --> Ente

[-] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Prefer a more local solution, ente is good but you have to have a cloud account, this recommandation can be replace by nextcloud for example

[-] Broken@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

I appreciate this list. Half of them I've never heard of, so it's a treasure trove to me.

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[-] oni@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 months ago

Even though Sav is good, you should know that it has serious security vulnerabilities, which is most likely not getting fixed anytime soon https://github.com/Sav22999/sav-pdf-viewer-pro/issues/28

Many other FOSS PDF viewers have this issue as well. For this reason, I would recommend using MJ PDF reader.

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[-] THE_ANTIHERO@lemmy.today 1 points 8 months ago

Best Pdf viewer is clearly librera reader

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 1 points 8 months ago

Yes and no, I do use it but sometimes it's too complex to understand and I just switch back to the basic default one!

[-] THE_ANTIHERO@lemmy.today 2 points 8 months ago

What how is it complex ? Like at all ? i have found way more complex unuser friendly ones but if you do have any doubts you can dm me or ask here.

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