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[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 13 points 7 months ago

I'm childish enough that I'm irritated at my comment here being removed. Here's the comment, which also applies to this meme:

You know that weak support for Hindenburg's party was what let Hitler come to power, right?

Not that I agree that Biden is a lesser evil, but even within those parameters, there's an absolutely glaring flaw in bringing up Nazi Germany while making the case that voting for the lesser evil is a bad idea

And when he asked for clarification:

My point is that the holocaust that gave rise to Niemöller's quote in the first place happened because of weakened resistance from the SPD (the establishment left), which wasn't getting support from the far-left of its day because it wasn't left enough. When as a result the fascist party gained control, it put all the far-left people in camps, outlawed the SPD, and began killing people by the millions. Which in retrospect made the complaint that the establishment left wasn't left enough to support, even against literal Hitler, seem short sighted.

Mod banned me. 🙂

[-] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 12 points 7 months ago

I got banned from World News (apparently the .ml instance) for calling out russian talking points being used for this end.

Its not just calls for not voting, either. The other they love to stan is voting third party and pretending the spoiler effect doesnt exist.

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 9 points 7 months ago

A lot of the lemmy.ml subs are very explicitly one-viewpoint subs; the mods will take out comments which advance arguments they don't like. It is a reason I don't bother with them much.

I mean, it makes sense; the administrators argue for explicitly totalitarian states like Russia or China, so it makes sense they'd use the same sort of approach to discourse under their own purview. I am curious what their viewpoint would be if their local government showed up at their door and started treating them like Russia or China treat their social media; I think there's a certain pick-me viewpoint like "obviously I would be one of the good and loyal ones and they'd leave me alone," but I don't think that is how it would work out.

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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 13 points 7 months ago
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[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

There are those that see things drifting away from their priorities and their wants and needs. They've tried working within the system, but the system always makes things worse. Of course people like that will be tempted to "burn it all down" and start anew, or at least throw a wrench in the cogs and stop progress.

We should focus on convincing them that 'progress' is better for them - and if it isn't, maybe we shouldn't support it as well. Unless it is an issue of justice, then of course not letting people 'get away with it' is worse for those people.

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